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Old 11-19-2021, 04:45 PM   #91
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Originally Posted by Gerard Lally View Post
It depends how you interpret that date. In the US, 4/01/2022 is April 1st 2022. Elsewhere in the world, 4/01/2022 is January 4th 2022.

A problem which would be solved if everybody did it according to the standard: 2022-01-04.
Which is 4th January 2022?

Just checking thay your standard is the same as mine
 
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Old 11-19-2021, 04:58 PM   #92
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Checking the Plasma release dates timeline indicates April 1, 2022 for 5.23.5 regardless of how you choose to write it.

And yes - too long. If that was even an option, then one would need to question not sticking with Python 3.10.

Last edited by Franklin; 11-19-2021 at 05:00 PM.
 
Old 11-19-2021, 06:21 PM   #93
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Checking the Plasma release dates timeline indicates April 1, 2022 for 5.23.5 regardless of how you choose to write it.

And yes - too long. If that was even an option, then one would need to question not sticking with Python 3.10.
https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5

Code:
5.23.5 	Bugfix 	Tue 2022-01-04 	Tue 2022-01-04 (same day) 	Bug fixes and new translations only from Plasma/5.23 branch
ISO 8601 format
So, Jan. 4th 2022

Anyway, Apr. 1st 2022 is on Monday (edit : Friday) , not Tuesday

More readable version :
https://calendar.google.com/calendar...Z29vZ2xlLmNvbQ

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Old 11-19-2021, 06:42 PM   #94
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Guilty as charged. And I even looked to make sure before I posted ... Gah!!!

Ugly American

[sigh]

I still say 12/15.

or is that 15/12. Head hurts.
 
Old 11-19-2021, 07:47 PM   #95
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Hmm.

Quote:
Originally Posted by marav View Post
Anyway, Apr. 1st 2022 is on monday, not tuesday
The information I found says 2022-Apr-1 is Friday. I used:
Code:
cal 2022
 
Old 11-19-2021, 08:06 PM   #96
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Hmm.



The information I found says 2022-Apr-1 is Friday. I used:
Code:
cal 2022
My bad ...
Because of Jan. 4th, I looked Apr. 4th
But it's still not Monday

Last edited by marav; 11-19-2021 at 08:07 PM.
 
Old 11-19-2021, 08:06 PM   #97
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To make something perfect is road to nowhere.

Some stuff can be fixed on the road to 15.1.
Haha. It seems that is where things are. Slackware 15 has been beyond awesome for quite awhile, RC1 confirmed this with proper testing.
Only noticed today about RC2. Currently downloading, yey.

From reading release history, I expected the release sooner. Seems this might be the longest beta-rc-release for any Slackware version, which might be good, but yeah, the road to perfection

Slackware 15 will be (is already) great. It will be interesting to see where things go towards 15.1 to polish it even further.
 
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Old 11-19-2021, 11:25 PM   #98
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All-numerical dates are ambiguous and should not be used; the iso 8601 is all-numerical and therefor ambiguous and therefor useless.

The only proper date format is:
  • day of month (01..31)
  • three letter abbreviated month name (Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec)
  • four digit year
This is un-ambiguous. And the order doesn't matter.

And just to pre-empt some of your comments - I live in a country where English is not the primary language (not even secondary), but every calendar here has local month names and English month names.

Regarding the topic of this thread:

While I appreciate the designation of RC2 (incl. "a much harder freeze") (Thank You, Mr. Volkerding), but the guessing game continues.

I do not understand the resistance by Mr. Volkerding to publishing a check-list/todo-list for 15.0 on his website. Hopefully this would be a short list by now.

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Originally Posted by Alien Bob
I hope he will un-stick himself ...
The opposite of stuck is un-stuck. If AlienBOB wants Pat to un-stuck himself, that means Pat is stuck now. Stop changing the language.

Another recent example of this is NTP - Network Time Protocol. At google it means New Tab Page.
9to5google.com/2021/08/19/chrome-new-tab-page-android-revamp/:
Quote:
That is part of my biggest gripe with this redesign. In removing, Google has fundamentally elevated the New Tab Page (NTP) — ironically — out of being a tab. If you imagine the tab switcher/grid view as Chrome’s underlying structure, then all open pages fit within it. Previously, the NTP was just another card alongside websites.
FooBar!!!

No wonder people can not communicate properly anymore with each other.
 
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Old 11-20-2021, 01:22 AM   #99
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Originally Posted by MadMaverick9 View Post
The only proper date format is:
  • day of month (01..31)
  • three letter abbreviated month name (Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec)
  • four digit year
This is un-ambiguous. And the order doesn't matter.

And just to pre-empt some of your comments - I live in a country where English is not the primary language (not even secondary), but every calendar here has local month names and English month names.
I used that format when I was in the military. I now prefer when written to use November 20, 2021 or Nov 20, 2021. For data or file names with dates I prefer 20211120. My Plasma Regional Settings is set to the format you prefer 20 Nov 2021 for short. One annoyance in my opinion, is customizing is not that easy. You have to pick a regional format that suites what you want for each setting. That and Dolphin keep setting my date preferences back to Relative.

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread subject.

I'll be glad when 15.0 is realized, but since I have been using -current for so long, well before 14.2 it not a really big deal for me. When 15.0 arrives, it arrives.

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Old 11-20-2021, 01:30 AM   #100
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MadMaverick9 - well hopefully he releases it by vav tevet 5782 then.
 
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Old 11-20-2021, 01:44 AM   #101
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15.0 is close - nice! Also looking forward to the flurry of activity and submissions over at Slackbuilds that will ensue.
 
Old 11-20-2021, 03:52 AM   #102
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Originally Posted by MadMaverick9 View Post
All-numerical dates are ambiguous and should not be used; the iso 8601 is all-numerical and therefor ambiguous and therefor useless.

The only proper date format is:
  • day of month (01..31)
  • three letter abbreviated month name (Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec)
  • four digit year
This is un-ambiguous. And the order doesn't matter.
That way of doing it messes up the sorting of files in the shell and in file managers. I can easily sort by date if I name directories 2021-11-20, 2021-11-21, etc.

You are absolutely wrong that the ISO standard is ambiguous. It is ambiguous only because people persist with their own local formats.

Last edited by Gerard Lally; 11-20-2021 at 04:12 AM.
 
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Old 11-20-2021, 04:04 AM   #103
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Originally Posted by Gerard Lally View Post
That way of doing it messes up the sorting of files in the shell and in file managers. I can easily sort by date if I name directories 2021-11-20, 2021-11-21, etc.

You are absolutely wrong that the ISO standard is ambiguous. It is ambiguous only to those who persist with their own local variations.
Agreed

And I prefer to have this :
Code:
Screenshot-20211120-105522.png
rather than:
Code:
Screenshot-Nov.\ 20\ 2021\ 10:55:22.png

Last edited by marav; 11-20-2021 at 04:41 AM. Reason: typo
 
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Old 11-20-2021, 04:11 AM   #104
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Originally Posted by marav View Post
And I prefer to have this :
Code:
Screeshot-20211120-105522.png
rather than:
Code:
Screenshot-Nov.\ 20\ 2021\ 10:55:22.png
Indeed. There is and should be no contest.

With exchanging spreadsheets and other data the problem can be much more serious.
 
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Old 11-20-2021, 04:20 AM   #105
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Plasma 5.23.5 is scheduled to release January 4, 2022.

https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5
 
  


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