Requests for current-next (15.0-->15.1)

HQuest · 11-29-2022, 07:35 AM

postfix was introduced to Slackware 14.2 -current tree shy over 5 years, however its discussion about being included into Slackware goes way, way older than that.

Both mail servers have plenty pros and cons. Back when postfix came to fame, it was a security decision to move away from sendmail. Yes, its Klingon (more like MUMPS, actually) configuration language based doesn’t help. Yes, not knowing how to configure sendmail via its pre-processed m4 files doesn’t help. Yes, relying solely on Claus Aßmann to support sendmail doesn’t help. Yes, a lot of the newer features are available on postfix way before they make their way into sendmail. Yes, there was an entire chapter dedicated to sendmail in the infamous “UNIX haters handbook” book, back from a day many of you weren’t even been born yet and complains over sendmail had already piled up.

And just as I myself experienced the other day when I asked for the inclusion of Nginx as an alternative to Apache HTTPD, there are reasons why one is selected over the other. Funny enough, I do run Nginx and sendmail, whereas the standard model suggests I either look for stability/reliability (sendmail/Apache) or performance/new features (postfix/Nginx).

Changing to postfix was a two folded decision: one, to signal its retirement and two, to make even less people know how to manage and maintain a sendmail - something I do with closed eyes.

However by the end of the day, Alphabet’s GMail and Microsoft Outlook combined with python and rust are taking away many’s need to run a MTA, so I guess whatever you install and run via an out of box experience will suffice. And for that, postfix is the “winner”, since requires no Klingon knowledge (or as I said before, “friendlier”).

And yet, while the few of us refuse to unplug the machines that are supporting sendmail’s life on /extras, the ask to update it to the current development tree as found at https://ftp.sendmail.org/snapshots/ isn’t a wrong request. Until Claus decides to officially call it 8.17.2.

Providing sendmail doesn’t go away from /extras, I guess those who prefer to use emacs as main text editor might be happy.

marav · 11-29-2022, 08:55 AM

Plasma 5.26.4

Code:

This release adds three weeks' worth of new translations and fixes from KDE's contributors. 
The bugfixes are typically small but important and include:

    Bluedevil: Install translated documentation from po/ too.
    Discover: Prefer openining the installed version of an app. Fixes bug #461664
    Discover Packagekit: check free space when update size changes.

Announcements:
https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/5/5.26.4/

Full changelog:
https://kde.org/announcements/change...5.26.3-5.26.4/

jloco · 11-30-2022, 03:34 PM

Quote:

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NetworkManager-1.40.6
Overview of changes since NetworkManager-1.40.4
===============================================

* team: also set empty port configuration so teamd
knows about the port.
* team: restore port configuration after teamd respawn.

NetworkManager 1.40.6

https://download.gnome.org/sources/N...-1.40.6.tar.xz

marav · 11-30-2022, 03:44 PM

Texinfo 7.0.1

Release notes:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/b.../msg00237.html

biker_rat · 11-30-2022, 09:24 PM

Mesa 22.3 is now available. It is a feature release. The brand new rusticl opencl implementation is included. I believe the implemenation in this initial release only supports the intel iris mesa driver. In future releases it is planned to also support amdgpu, nouveau and zink; and that to switch it on in the mesa compile configuration some deps will need to be added to slackware.

3rensho · 12-01-2022, 12:32 AM

Thunderbird-102.5.1

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thun...eases/102.5.1/

Contains a security fix

lancsuk · 12-01-2022, 04:41 AM

SDL2 2.26.0

fix Werror=undef gives error _HAVE_STDINT_H not defined

reddog83 · 12-01-2022, 05:54 PM

Glib 2.74.3

Quote:

Overview of changes in GLib 2.74.3
==================================

* Fix regression in type checking `g_str_equal()` from C++ projects (#2820)

* Bugs fixed:
- #2820 g_str_equal: New macro version breaks compilation in C++ projects
(Philip Withnall)
- !3096 Backport !3094 “gstrfuncs: Fix regression in C++ types accepted by
g_str_equal()” to glib-2-74

https://download.gnome.org/sources/g...-2.74.3.tar.xz

0XBF · 12-01-2022, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reddog83

Glib 2.74.3

Code:

Overview of changes in GLib 2.74.3
==================================

* Fix regression in type checking `g_str_equal()` from C++ projects (#2820)

* Bugs fixed:
- #2820 g_str_equal: New macro version breaks compilation in C++ projects
(Philip Withnall)
- !3096 Backport !3094 “gstrfuncs: Fix regression in C++ types accepted by
g_str_equal()” to glib-2-74

That means that C++ API patch can be dropped now. Hopefully this release of glib gets it right this time

Edit: FWIW, I tested out the new glib-2.74.3 on -current and those builds are all working fine now with the patch dropped (gegl, gjs, gst-plugins-bad-free, and vte).

reddog83 · 12-01-2022, 09:41 PM

GJS

Quote:

Version 1.74.1
--------------

- Closed bugs and merge requests:
* Problem calling promisified D-Bus wrappers with callback [#494, !790, Marco
Trevisan]
* docs: Fix link in issue template [!799, Jan Tojnar]
* doc: Document Gio.FileEnumerator iteration [!800, Sonny Piers]
* doc: Fix Markdown formatting in README.MSVC.md [!803, Kisaragi Hiu]

https://download.gnome.org/sources/g...-1.74.1.tar.xz

camerabambai · 12-02-2022, 10:11 AM

MariaDB on Slackware 15 (and I think also on current) is compiled without tls support.

Code:

MariaDB [mysql]> SHOW GLOBAL VARIABLES LIKE 'have_ssl';
+---------------+----------+
| Variable_name | Value    |
+---------------+----------+
| have_ssl      | DISABLED |
+---------------+----------+

Is not a bad idea to enable tls, imho.

EDIT: i was confused, sorry, TLS is compiled, but not enabled

marav · 12-02-2022, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camerabambai

MariaDB on Slackware 15 (and I think also on current) is compiled without tls support.

Code:

MariaDB [mysql]> SHOW GLOBAL VARIABLES LIKE 'have_ssl';
+---------------+----------+
| Variable_name | Value    |
+---------------+----------+
| have_ssl      | DISABLED |
+---------------+----------+

Is not a bad idea to enable tls, imho.

EDIT: i was confused, sorry, TLS is compiled, but not enabled

I think your query is incorrect

Code:

MariaDB [mysql]> SHOW VARIABLES LIKE '%ssl%';
+---------------------+----------------------------+
| Variable_name       | Value                      |
+---------------------+----------------------------+
| have_openssl        | YES                        |
| have_ssl            | DISABLED                   |
| ssl_ca              |                            |
| ssl_capath          |                            |
| ssl_cert            |                            |
| ssl_cipher          |                            |
| ssl_crl             |                            |
| ssl_crlpath         |                            |
| ssl_key             |                            |
| version_ssl_library | OpenSSL 1.1.1s  1 Nov 2022 |
+---------------------+----------------------------+
10 rows in set (0,001 sec)

HQuest · 12-02-2022, 04:33 PM

openldap 2.6.3 needs to be recompiled. The one shipped with Slackware might have been linked with previous components and not updated. It fails to run with message "slapd: undefined symbol: PL_current_context" (I'm assuming Perl because of the PL prefix but I might be wrong). Recompiled manually and it works as expected with today's -current.

Nobby6 · 12-03-2022, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwoithe

Postfix certainly seems to be the flavour of the month, and that's fine - choice is a good thing. However, I for one plan to stick with Sendmail while it continues to be maintained by upstream. I have many site-specific customisations set up which would take considerable time to port to Postfix, and there are some which Postfix couldn't do when I last checked.

I was a sendmail fanboi for a VERY long time, to point we ran sendmail up front protecting multiple qmail/vpopmail servers, I lived in the sendmail usenet groups, but, sometimes you have to move to what does things better, even today in December 2022, try using sendmail with mysql/mariadb for virtual domains without patching and a lot of work, where postfix just does it, and sendmail by default does still not do concurrent processing without m4 patching, I left our sendmail/qmail/vpopmail for postfix/dovecot in 2008, and haven't looked back, its performance even compared to altering sendmail for concurrent processing still leaves sendmail in its wake.

Nobby6 · 12-03-2022, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HQuest

What are the odds of adding Nginx into extras? While Apache is truly reliable and one of (if not still #1) most run web servers out there, it is lagging behind many others in modern features. Nginx has been proven reliable enough to power certain commercial appliances (under its commercial code), and it wouldn’t be a bad move to have it as an alternative.

I hear this alot, but nobody has been able to list what nginx does that apache httpd can't, so lets see the list? surely you can fire off a good few given your claim above, it might even help your cause with Pat thinking about adding it to extras sometime, but I suspect that list must be large or at least compelling before he gives it serious thought, so as I tell my staff, if you want something new, put forward your usecase... (please don't think about claiming speed, I've heard this before and we disproved that theory simulating a busy 1000 vhost server on our dev bed several times)