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Old 04-06-2015, 07:58 PM   #76
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Even if one doesn't like very much to communicate, a simple one-liner in a changelog is not to much to ask for, I would think, but to each its own. I personally think that there is something wrong when people have to speculate about your well being because communication is missing, but if that is the way he wants it than we will have to live with it.
If I were in his shoes looking at what lies ahead for Linux I too would be maintaining a monastic silence. In your mid- to late-forties you don't take decisions about your livelihood lightly, because it's not as easy to start all over again. There are some lonely decisions to be made about Slackware in the years ahead: go one way, and you are on your own in relation to nearly every other distro out there; go the other, and you could lose a sizeable chunk of your customer base. Not nice to be landed with that, is it? One thing is for sure, he won't arrive at any sensible decisions by joining the fray. Better to stand back and reflect a while.
 
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:03 PM   #77
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There are some lonely decisions to be made about Slackware in the years ahead: go one way, and you are on your own in relation to nearly every other distro out there; go the other, and you could lose a sizeable chunk of your customer base.
Oh FFS, not this again. I'm sticking with Slackware. With all due respect, you don't speak for me.
 
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:08 PM   #78
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Oh FFS, not this again. I'm sticking with Slackware. With all due respect, you don't speak for me.
That's a harsh reply hitest. I didn't claim to speak for you. I think you over-reacted.
 
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:10 PM   #79
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Oh FFS, not this again. I'm sticking with Slackware. With all due respect, you don't speak for me.
I don't get that gezley was trying to speak for others, but with all the strong feelings expressed on some subjects recently (my own included), I am sure that Patrick factors in some weighted measure of potential for user alienation to his decision making process.
 
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:15 PM   #80
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I don't get that gezley was trying to speak for others, but with all the strong feelings expressed on some subjects recently (my own included), I am sure that Patrick factors in some weighted measure of potential for user alienation to his decision making process.
Precisely. Thank you.
 
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:17 PM   #81
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That's a harsh reply hitest. I didn't claim to speak for you. I think you over-reacted.
Perhaps. But, I think the second guessing of Patrick's decision making processes have gone on for long enough. I'm tired of it. I'm a Slacker.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 08:41 PM   #82
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Perhaps. But, I think the second guessing of Patrick's decision making processes have gone on for long enough. I'm tired of it. I'm a Slacker.
The very first reply to the OP in this thread was a guess as to what Pat was up to, and that post was yours, so no need to get up on your high horse eh?
 
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:12 PM   #83
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The very first reply to the OP in this thread was a guess as to what Pat was up to, and that post was yours, so no need to get up on your high horse eh?
Yeah, so? Where in that reply did I second guess or speculate as to what decisions Pat should or should not make?
Pat is the best person to chart the course of Slackware. I leave those decisions to him. Let us leave Pat to do what he does best.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 09:21 PM   #84
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The man himself has spoken, maybe we should all relax before this devolves into another one of 'those' threads.
 
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:22 PM   #85
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The man himself has spoken, maybe we should all relax before this devolves into another one of 'those' threads.
Agreed. Point well taken. Thanks, man.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 11:08 PM   #86
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Well, it isn't entirely unreasonable to be worried.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...0/#post1296875

(Well, it was over a decade ago so you can argue that it isn't entirely reasonable to worried, either.)
 
Old 04-07-2015, 02:40 AM   #87
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If I were in his shoes looking at what lies ahead for Linux I too would be maintaining a monastic silence. In your mid- to late-forties you don't take decisions about your livelihood lightly, because it's not as easy to start all over again. There are some lonely decisions to be made about Slackware in the years ahead: go one way, and you are on your own in relation to nearly every other distro out there; go the other, and you could lose a sizeable chunk of your customer base. Not nice to be landed with that, is it? One thing is for sure, he won't arrive at any sensible decisions by joining the fray. Better to stand back and reflect a while.
If we, as in Slackware Community, we continue to accept to a handful of Ultra-Orthodox Sunday (so-called) Slackers to be our Representatives, the risk is to become like the Brave People who said that:


'Ik'id, k y'dn'a.
'koo T'zhe hoogh d'n bik' 'lin'a.
'koo T'zhe gotl yiis'n'a.
'koo Mai'ee hghon'a.
Gotl jiis' 'ee, Mai tsbee naan'azhishn'a.
'koo bitsee tsnigon'a.


You understand this? No? Why, not? Long time ago almost all understand those words in North America. Still, in the same way will be Slackware facile for a future Linux administrator or hobbyist. You see the light?

* That's in Apache Language, and due to respect the Forum rules, there is translation in the Pale Faces language:


Long ago, there was no fire.
Then only those who are called Flies had fire.
Then the Flies held a ceremony.
And Coyote came there.
At that place where they held the ceremony,
Coyote danced around and around at the edge of the fire.
And he continually poked his tail in the fire.

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Old 04-07-2015, 03:46 AM   #88
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You understand this?
It was a struggle, but yes, I understand but don't agree. It's a poor analogy, but I can't be bothered explaining why.
 
Old 04-07-2015, 03:51 AM   #89
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Too much peyote too early in the morning makes any man a pale face.
 
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Old 04-07-2015, 04:00 AM   #90
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It was a struggle, but yes, I understand but don't agree. It's a poor analogy, but I can't be bothered explaining why.
To understand that while you are able to read well in ol'good Apache language, you don't agree with the Apache's story about how the People obtained the fire with the help of Coyote and you consider that is just a poor analogy?

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