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Old 11-04-2023, 09:40 AM   #1
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USB DAC and NO sound...


Hi All

I am new to Linux Mint and first post here, though inexperienced I wish I could contribute in some way.

Recently I switched to LM, converting to dual boot with W11 and with the intent to use mainly Mint.

All seems to be fine with the installation except the lack of sound when connecting (USB) an external DAC.
Code:
$ inxi -Aa
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Raven/Raven2/Fenghuang HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.1
    chip-ID: 1002:15de class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio Processor
    driver: snd_pci_acp3x v: kernel
    alternate: snd_rn_pci_acp3x,snd_pci_acp5x,snd_pci_acp6x pcie: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.5 chip-ID: 1022:15e2 class-ID: 0480
  Device-3: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Realtek driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.6
    chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-88-generic running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes
In actual use, however, there is one bizarre stumbling block. I like to use an external USB connected DAC, it shows as recognised by the system when I enter the command $ lsusb
Code:
lsusb
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 8087:0a2a Intel Corp. Bluetooth wireless interface
Bus 003 Device 027: ID 26f2:0100 Micromega MICROMEGA MYDAC
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 056d:0002 EIZO Corp. HID Monitor Controls
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 056e:010c Elecom Co., Ltd M-HT1URBK HUGE Optical TrackBall
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 2efd:7812 SONiX USB Keyboard
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0409:005a NEC Corp. HighSpeed Hub
Bus 001 Device 010: ID 13fe:3600 Kingston Technology Company Inc. flash drive (4GB, EMTEC)
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
yet the DAC doesn´t appear in Sound preferences and in consequence there is no sound.

Pulse Audio doesn´t recognise the DAC and no matter how I changed the settings there was no change.
Code:
pacmd list-cards
2 card(s) available.
    index: 0
	name: <alsa_card.pci-0000_03_00.1>
	driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
	owner module: 7
	properties:
		alsa.card = "0"
		alsa.card_name = "HD-Audio Generic"
		alsa.long_card_name = "HD-Audio Generic at 0xfe7c8000 irq 58"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:03:00.1"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:08.1/0000:03:00.1/sound/card0"
		device.bus = "pci"
		device.vendor.id = "1002"
		device.vendor.name = "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]"
		device.product.id = "15de"
		device.product.name = "Raven/Raven2/Fenghuang HDMI/DP Audio Controller"
		device.string = "0"
		device.description = "Raven/Raven2/Fenghuang HDMI/DP Audio Controller"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
	profiles:
		output:hdmi-stereo: Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output (priority 5900, available: no)
		output:hdmi-surround: Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI) Output (priority 800, available: no)
		output:hdmi-surround71: Digital Surround 7.1 (HDMI) Output (priority 800, available: no)
		output:hdmi-stereo-extra1: Digital Stereo (HDMI 2) Output (priority 5700, available: no)
		output:hdmi-surround-extra1: Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI 2) Output (priority 600, available: no)
		output:hdmi-surround71-extra1: Digital Surround 7.1 (HDMI 2) Output (priority 600, available: no)
		output:hdmi-stereo-extra2: Digital Stereo (HDMI 3) Output (priority 5700, available: no)
		output:hdmi-surround-extra2: Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI 3) Output (priority 600, available: no)
		output:hdmi-surround71-extra2: Digital Surround 7.1 (HDMI 3) Output (priority 600, available: no)
		output:hdmi-stereo-extra3: Digital Stereo (HDMI 4) Output (priority 5700, available: no)
		output:hdmi-surround-extra3: Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI 4) Output (priority 600, available: no)
		output:hdmi-surround71-extra3: Digital Surround 7.1 (HDMI 4) Output (priority 600, available: no)
		off: Off (priority 0, available: unknown)
	active profile: <off>
	ports:
		hdmi-output-0: HDMI / DisplayPort (priority 5900, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "video-display"
		hdmi-output-1: HDMI / DisplayPort 2 (priority 5800, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "video-display"
		hdmi-output-2: HDMI / DisplayPort 3 (priority 5700, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "video-display"
		hdmi-output-3: HDMI / DisplayPort 4 (priority 5600, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "video-display"
    index: 2
	name: <alsa_card.pci-0000_03_00.6>
	driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
	owner module: 10
	properties:
		alsa.card = "1"
		alsa.card_name = "HD-Audio Generic"
		alsa.long_card_name = "HD-Audio Generic at 0xfe7c0000 irq 59"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:03:00.6"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:08.1/0000:03:00.6/sound/card1"
		device.bus = "pci"
		device.vendor.id = "1022"
		device.vendor.name = "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]"
		device.product.id = "15e3"
		device.product.name = "Family 17h (Models 10h-1fh) HD Audio Controller"
		device.string = "1"
		device.description = "Family 17h (Models 10h-1fh) HD Audio Controller"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
	profiles:
		input:analog-stereo: Analogue Stereo Input (priority 65, available: no)
		output:analog-stereo: Analogue Stereo Output (priority 39268, available: unknown)
		output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Analogue Stereo Duplex (priority 6565, available: unknown)
		off: Off (priority 0, available: unknown)
	active profile: <output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo>
	sinks:
		alsa_output.pci-0000_03_00.6.analog-stereo/#1: Family 17h (Models 10h-1fh) HD Audio Controller Analogue Stereo
	sources:
		alsa_output.pci-0000_03_00.6.analog-stereo.monitor/#1: Monitor of Family 17h (Models 10h-1fh) HD Audio Controller Analogue Stereo
		alsa_input.pci-0000_03_00.6.analog-stereo/#2: Family 17h (Models 10h-1fh) HD Audio Controller Analogue Stereo
	ports:
		analog-input-mic: Microphone (priority 8700, latency offset -10000 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"
		analog-output-speaker: Speakers (priority 10000, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "audio-speakers"
		analog-output-headphones: Headphones (priority 9900, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "audio-headphones"
And here is the output from $ inxi -Fxz
Code:
inxi -Fxz
System:
  Kernel: 5.15.0-88-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.4.0
    Desktop: Cinnamon 5.8.4 Distro: Linux Mint 21.2 Victoria
    base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy
Machine:
  Type: Mini-pc Mobo: N/A model: AM02 serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1.16_P2C10M3_AMILogo date: 05/30/2022
CPU:
  Info: quad core model: AMD Ryzen 7 3750H with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx
    bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen/Zen+ note: check rev: 1 cache: L1: 384 KiB
    L2: 2 MiB L3: 4 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1237 high: 1282 min/max: 1400/2300 boost: enabled
    cores: 1: 1229 2: 1273 3: 1216 4: 1226 5: 1282 6: 1223 7: 1225 8: 1224
    bogomips: 36729
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Picasso/Raven 2 [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Mobile Series]
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus-ID: 03:00.0
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.4 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu,ati
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon Vega 10 Graphics (raven LLVM 15.0.7 DRM 3.42
  5.15.0-88-generic)
    v: 4.6 Mesa 23.0.4-0ubuntu1~22.04.1 direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Raven/Raven2/Fenghuang HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel bus-ID: 03:00.1
  Device-2: AMD Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio Processor
    driver: snd_pci_acp3x v: kernel bus-ID: 03:00.5
  Device-3: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Realtek driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel bus-ID: 03:00.6
  Device-4: Micromega MYDAC type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio bus-ID: 3-1:27
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-88-generic running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    driver: r8169 v: kernel port: f000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
  IF: enp1s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wireless 7265 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel bus-ID: 02:00.0
  IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
    bus-ID: 3-2:2
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down
    bt-service: enabled,running rfk-block: hardware: no software: yes
    address: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 478.81 GiB used: 220.68 GiB (46.1%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda model: NS512GSSD340 size: 476.94 GiB
  ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB model: USB DISK 2.0 size: 1.87 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 324.79 GiB used: 219.81 GiB (67.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 96 MiB used: 51.3 MiB (53.5%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: N/A mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 62.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
  Processes: 320 Uptime: 3d 5h 13m Memory: 13.59 GiB used: 7.12 GiB (52.4%)
  Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 11.4.0 Packages: 2505 Shell: Bash
  v: 5.1.16 inxi: 3.3.13
Above I labeled the problem as ‘bizarre’ because otherwise the USB audio works (with wireless-usb headphones) and the headphones output is also functional. When I boot in Windows the DAC function straightaway.

From another thread about a similar problem I checked with the command
Code:
$ curl https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/raw/master/src/utils/pa-info?inline=false | bash | nc termbin.com 9999
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100  2349  100  2349    0     0   3209      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--  3213
cat: /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/01-enable-autospawn.conf: No such file or directory
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /run/snapd/ns
      Output information may be incomplete.
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() nsfs file system /run/snapd/ns/kompozer.mnt
      Output information may be incomplete.
/usr/sbin/alsa-info: line 661: tree: command not found
/usr/sbin/alsa-info: line 661: tree: command not found
/usr/sbin/alsa-info: line 661: tree: command not found
alsactl: get_control:255: Cannot read control '2,0,0,MICROMEGA USB Audio 1.0 Output Playback Swi,0': Invalid argument
cat: /tmp/alsa-info.tDZWhHh5Ct/alsactl.tmp: No such file or directory
https://termbin.com/fxjl
Any suggestions how to tackle the problem? Thank you in advance.
 
Old 11-07-2023, 09:54 PM   #2
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Hi, To get more info from the command in your post, last box (curl...) tree command not found.

If you install tree package there may be more info.

One other thing, have you installed any linux firmware packages?

You may be able to check compatability with...no not that.

The kernel recognises and names the device, so it's either firmware for the OS to get a connection,

or a permission or perhaps how the usb device is loaded.

See how you go.
 
Old 11-08-2023, 05:23 AM   #3
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Hi, and thanks for suggestions.

Frankly, I am new to Mint and inexperienced, and have no idea about the tree command you mention,
I saw the script in a thread about a similar, if not identical, issue, here it is

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=309748

As for additional firmware packages I haven´t installed any. I tried booting with Mint live ISO and still no sound from the DAC

As the DAC shows up everywhere in the system (I attach 2 screenshots from Alsamixer interminal though not sure if useful) except at the end of the chain in PA/ Sound I agree that the problem must be some sort of permission.
 
Old 11-08-2023, 06:03 AM   #4
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I suspect you may be missing some packages to make pipewire work.

You have both pulse and pipewire active, this in not correct. They are fighting with each other. I'm not running LM, but have been using pipewire for months, since it was introduced in Slackware. Here is what inxi looks like on a running system.

Quote:
inxi -Aa
Audio:
Device-1: NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 8 bus-ID: 07:00.1
chip-ID: 10de:0e0f class-ID: 0403
Device-2: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 09:00.3
chip-ID: 1022:1457 class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.1.61 status: kernel-api with: aoss type: oss-emulator
tools: alsactl,alsamixer,alsamixergui,amixer
Server-1: EsounD v: 0.2.41 status: off tools: esdcat,esdctl,esddsp
Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.84 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
status: active 2: wireplumber status: active tools: pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Server-3: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: off (using pipewire-pulse)
tools: pacat,pactl,pamixer,pavucontrol
Notice the status of pulse; its off. Also notice the presence of pipewire-pulse and wireplumber. Those packages had to be added with pipewire.

Since my info comes from Slackware, you may find differences in package names with ML.

Here is a link to a How To that may help you out. https://www.maketecheasier.com/insta...ipewire-linux/

The other thing you could do, is remove pipewire, and run only pulse, since they both do the similar functions.
The auther of the link I posted gives you the pros and cons of running pipewire. It is your choice.

Last edited by camorri; 11-08-2023 at 06:04 AM.
 
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Old 11-09-2023, 02:07 AM   #5
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Thanks CAMORRI for the input.

I understand the logic of what you're saying about PA and PW and I tried to deactivate, or even remove one or the other, but to no avail for each time after using terminal to stop or remove afterwards both appear to be running again.

How can I remove effectively one of them?

Thanks
 
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At this time I don't think pipewire runs by it self, hence the other packages I mentioned.

So, your one option is to uninstall pipewire, and work with pulse. Your package manager should be able to uninstall pipewire.

Did you look through the link I posted on getting pipewire installed and working?

Last edited by camorri; 11-09-2023 at 05:38 AM.
 
Old 11-10-2023, 11:49 AM   #7
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Thanks again for advice.

Yes, I checked the link, its interesting with nice step by step instructions, but when I verified if PW is still present in my system the terminal shows only PA as installed and active.
Code:
$ pactl info
Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native
Library Protocol Version: 35
Server Protocol Version: 35
Is Local: yes
Client Index: 8
Tile Size: 65472
User Name: flo
Host Name: florentis
Server Name: pulseaudio
Server Version: 15.99.1
Default Sample Specification: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right
Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_03_00.6.analog-stereo
Default Source: alsa_output.pci-0000_03_00.6.analog-stereo.monitor
Cookie: 955f:2c22
Should I go ahead with installing PW?
 
Old 11-10-2023, 12:14 PM   #8
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Should I go ahead with installing PW?
This is confusing, I thought you have PW installed. Reinstalling is not likley to fix anything.

I think you need to look as ML forums for help, there must be people there that have made this work.

On Slackware, there are several steps, that are now done with a script file. They alter desktop files amnongs other things.

I can not supply that information, since each distro has their own approach on how to integrate and configure the componets.
 
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I did some searching. It looks like Mint is using Ubuntu for doc, and examples on how to install.

See this link. -->https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php...-ubuntu-20-04/

You should have a read through this link on the Mint forums.

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=255719
 
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Originally Posted by camorri View Post
This is confusing, I thought you have PW installed. Reinstalling is not likley to fix anything.

I think you need to look as ML forums for help, there must be people there that have made this work.

On Slackware, there are several steps, that are now done with a script file. They alter desktop files amnongs other things.

I can not supply that information, since each distro has their own approach on how to integrate and configure the componets.
Yes, I had installed PW and subsequently removed it after you rightly pointed that there might be a conflict between PW and PA running at the same time.
Its another matter that probably I didn't set it up properly.

Unfortunately I couldn't get any feedback on LM forums.

I'll try PW before giving up on Mint.
 
Old 11-11-2023, 01:42 PM   #11
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Just installed PW following the instructions for the link you provided.

Its one step forward, thanks, for now both Sound and PA Volume Control (curiously it remained even after deleting PA) show the DAC.

Yet still no joy since the DAC remains silent. I suspect something optional hasn't been installed because when I go to the Volume Control/ Configuration for the DAC is available just one profile 'Pro Audio'. The same profile is available for my USB-headphones and when I select it they stop playing, they work only with the other profile avilable for them 'Digital stereo (IEC958).

And the other strange thing is that when in Terminal / Alsamixer I select the DAC soundcard and press Enter the Terminal respond with this

Code:
flo@florentis:~$ alsamixer
cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument
flo@florentis:~$ alsamixer
cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument
The same procedure for the headphones, however, works.
 
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See the man page for alsamixer. Since you have more than 1 card, you have to specify the card.

Example alsamixer -c1 will display card 1. You get the Invalid argument because the software doesn't know which card to show. Run aplay -l to see a list of the cards you have.
 
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Finally a success! Not sure though how I did it... I fiddled with alsamixed, couldn't resolve the 'Invalid argument' issue, but managed to open and unmute some of the audio channels and probably that finally did it.

Once more thank you for your guidance and suggestions, without the PW properly installed and running nothing would have happened.
 
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My joy was premature I am afraid for after putting the PC to sleep and returning I checked the audio again and this time there was completely no sound, neither from the DAC nor from the headphones.... yet the settings are the same, nothing seems to have changed.
I am really at a loss what to do.

Update: the headphones started to sing, but the DAC no

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I have done more searching, and found this link.

https://github.com/mikeroyal/PipeWire-Guide

It may help. There are examples of how to install pipewire on Debain and Ubuntu. Possibly this may help you.
 
  


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