Someone opened on the other side Pandora's box that had just been closed, as clearly pointed out by bassmadrigal and (maybe too allusively) by myself. The result was predictable.

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@I.G.O.R
Allow me to point you in the direction of the LQ Rules, especially this: "Do not post if you do not have anything constructive to say in the post."

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Ok, then the whole topic has to be closed, because it was emotionally influenced and didn't promise any constructive discussions. It's not constructive by nature, and anyone posting here just has to be not constructive in order to follow its line.

For once I agree with IGOR. Let's stop gnawing this dry bone!

Hi,

My intent for this thread is to have an intelligent discussion about Slackware and the Live system that is available for users to experiment with. Some may wish to use liveslak tools to allow unique setups for Slackware-Live ISO.

As a member and mod I am asking that you do abide by LQ Rules as other members should when posting. Maybe consider posting relevant topic information when you reply to any thread so it is not derailed and spins into confusion.

EDIT: Some may find this Slackware-Live README helpful.
Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy Slackware-Live !

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I am calling you out on being insincere. Below I am quoting your OP post which has two paragraphs and a John Wayne quote as a vague rant referring to the previous dumpster fire thread you recreated. Notice how the discussion about the Live system is only a brief footnote at the bottom. You reap what you sow.

As much as I haven't used Slackware as of late due to the fact I'm in the process of revamping and rebuilding a PC, and I need Windows at the moment for projects, I've used Slackware enough that OneBuck, you're dead on correct.

Knowing the way the system works teaches you to be self sufficient. That quote from John Wayne was accurate. Either you know your stuff, or you're just an idiot meandering along.

I can't wait to get my new system going. Been missing dual booting for some time now with Slackware.

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I agree with you on that.

This is one area that I don't 100% agree with Eric on and I sometimes feel he takes it a bit too personally.

But I think it's worth questioning your motivations. If you're going to say something on a forum what is the intended outcome? Is it supposed to spur the developers into action? If it worked for you in the past, then sure do it again, but if it didn't, maybe it's time to reconsider your approach.

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You absolutely have the right to create a new post... but that doesn't mean you should. Everyone saw that the dumpster fire was going to move to this thread, but you either posted knowing full well what was to come or you had your blinders on thinking this was going to stay only positive (I find the latter hard to believe with how long you've been in this forum).

You're a person of many requests with little contributions. How many times do most users see the installer (or the lack thereof in your case when you manually install Slackware)? Prior to doing that run through in a VM last week or so for the other thread, I hadn't seen the installer since I built my htpc back in May 2019. Before that was when I built my desktop in October of 2017.

Is the installer minimal? Absolutely! Could things be added to the installer? Absolutely! Should Pat focus his time on adding features to the installer rather than getting 15.0 closer to release? In my mind, I'd rather he focus on the software in the upcoming 15.0 release rather than the installer I'll see only a handful of times.

Maybe you could do some of the work yourself. Based on Didier's thread on how to get a wifi connection during installation, I got the itch to bang something out. It's probably rife with inefficient ways to do things (I'm a hobbyist who pretends to be a programmer with bash scripting), but everything seems to work now. I think my final touch is to add support for specifying static IPs (preview here). I know this won't support everyone's situations (like VPNs), but it's a start and if Pat, Didier, or anyone else wants to use it as inspiration or a starting point, it's under the MIT license, so anyone is welcome to it.

*sigh* again with the same argument... SBo is intended to be separate from -current. It is matched up to the latest stable release and nothing more. It is not tested to work under -current and they don't have any plans to change that. We're just lucky to have Matteo with his unofficial repo tracking -current so SBo is better prepared once 15.0 is released.

What's a critical bug report that's been ignored?

You come in just complaining. In any business environment, that's going to get you looked down on pretty quick. You are the brand new, lowly, bottom-rung employee making minimum wage that is coming in to tell a fortune 500 CEO how to run the company. Some of your points might be very valid, but they get lost in your attitude. It also wouldn't get you anywhere if you were to tell Sony executives to stop selling electronics and go into the fertilizer business. Granted, that's an extreme, way over the top example, but many of the things you want changed on Slackware are things that make Slackware itself. The development process has been long, but -current has been consistently moving and it seems to be edging closer to a release.

Based on your posts, it seems you're here just to argue and not actually bring about any good change in Slackware. I do hope you eventually bring something to the distro rather than just shaming the people who enjoy it as it is. If it is dying (it isn't), why can't you let us enjoy our time together? Some of us may have our heads buried in the sand and there might be a better distro for us, but as the saying goes... "Ignorance is bliss." I'm plenty happy with Slackware that I don't feel a need to start hunting for another distro that might suit me better. There might be one out there, but I doubt it. I've done a lot of looking over my 20 years on Linux and I've never felt quite as home as I have with Slackware.

@ReaperX7, long time no see! I hope you're doing well!

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I agree completely. The individual you speak of suffers from an extreme form of PEBKAC. It is impossible to engage in any form of civil discourse with him.
I love and use Slackware on most of my computers; I'm happy to financially support my favorite operating system. I'm grateful that Mr. Volkerding and the Slackware Team of developers are working tirelessly to bring us Slackware 15.0.
Slackware is alive and well.

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I am disappointed about this thread. Given its title, I came here hoping to read some insider rumors about when Slackware 15.0 is going to be released. But all I got to read here were I.G.O.R's posts. Again.

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There are some milestones that have been achieved that bring us closer to Slackware 15.0. Slackware64-current now has a 5.4.x kernel, PAM, Qt5, and other additions. I suspect we're closer to a beta release when we see XFCE 4.14 and KDE5 in the -current branch.
In the 16 years that I've used Slackware Mr. Volkerding has always delivered a rock solid stable release. I'm looking forward to 15.0.

True, unfortunately. Just look at that thread.

The bug has been fixed in current, but not in stable. I suppose it wasn't considered a bug because of the full install nonsense. The thread is also quite revealing about how a constructive bug report has been treated by the developers and by the community.


Cheers

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It looks like an excuse, but not very credible, because everybody can see your post.

Mod in troll mode? :-)

But anyways, such topic has to exist and be active until release 15.0 which is not going to happen any time soon.