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View Poll Results: Is slackware dead?
Yes 23 10.85%
No 135 63.68%
Not sure 11 5.19%
Undead 43 20.28%
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Old 02-03-2021, 08:17 PM   #61
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Given that I can run Slackware64-current multilib with amdgpu via AMD Radeon RX 5700XT on a Samsung 4K UHD monitor, fire up the Steam client and play a bunch of linux games, as well as many windows games via Proton (even Borderlands 3) via on high-ultra settings at 1440p and 4K, I'm in Linux hog heaven. Heck, even fired up Skyrim Legendary Edition, with the high res patches via wine-staging-6.0 at a glorious 4K 60 FPS!

Oh, yeah, and miscellaneous office with 2 printers and scanners, webcam, firewire DV cam, music/video stuff too. The Year of the Slackware Linux Desktop arrived here decades ago.

On a side note: before Slackware-Current hit kernel 5.4, my main box was still 14.2 and there was very little that didn't work or didn't run.

EDIT: Before I posted this, I just read the 1st page of posts, ignored the rest, and hopped into the fray...as I usually do every year Slackware is reported dead.

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Old 02-03-2021, 09:00 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by bassmadrigal View Post
I think it's impossible to make a post like this without being a troll or brain dead.
I only have one issue with that attitude. And just to be clear I 100% agree with your opinion and am not trying to be an ass or anything..buuuuut...


If the whole point of posting that was to troll the Slackware users, then they will consider this a success and it WILL happen again. Trolling isn't about being right or wrong, it's about provoking an emotion and on the first page of posts there was a clear negative reaction to what he said. So in cases like this where some dude creates a burner account to start a fight, then he is probably laughing with his friends.


Instead of justifying the idea that slackware users are a bunch of cranky old people just answer the question and move on. And to be perfectly honest here if you know that someone is trolling and you give them what they want then you are probably the braindead one. There's a reason people say "don't feed the troll"


So if you had a choice between...

A) getting mad at the troll
B) throwing numbers from my changelog statistics project in his stupid troll face
C) ignoring the entire thread


...which would you prefer? IMO Option A seems like the braindead decision. Option B is shameless self promotion




Or maybe all of us are overthinking this and some 13 y/o kid heard about slackware for the first time and didn't think before he posted.
 
Old 02-03-2021, 09:39 PM   #63
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Right
And if Slackware was dead, what about the others ...
Don't care about the others... 50 threads on the first page of Slackware Forum and all recent. That's not dead.
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Old 02-04-2021, 01:59 AM   #64
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I've been using slackware for over 15 years

15 years really ? And that poll ?

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please clarify for those of us that aren't up to
Be my guest :
https://www.wordreference.com/definition/slack
 
Old 02-04-2021, 04:19 AM   #65
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Why didn't anyone just answer "No" to the poll without making a whole bunch of comments, and after that the topic would have been closed ?
 
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Old 02-04-2021, 04:27 AM   #66
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It looks like the last release was in 2016... seems about 4 and 1/2 years since that release... is Slackware still getting updated? Should I try to install it on a new laptop?
You're probably not old enough to understand this but the last major version of TeX was released some time in the late 1980s, and it's still very much alive. As to whether you should install it, I think you should stick to your favourite word processor. Version 2022 if you can get your hands on it.
 
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Old 02-04-2021, 07:05 AM   #67
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I'm genuinely confused by your approach because normally when someone wants to know if something is happening NOW they will ignore information posted in the PAST. Unless someone with actual Slackware cred (e.g. a member of "The Team") provides an official answer, this question will occur at the start of 2022, and repeat for each year after that until it is either answered or the project has ceased moving all together.
I have to agree with you (but I also think you're being unnecessarily harsh with sevendogsbsd). The usual process for finding out if a project is active, is to go to its website. If on going to the website, you find that it is unmaintained and that the last release was over 4 years ago, you could well assume you're looking at an abandoned project.

If after going to the website, you find the forum - but find no meaningful FAQ or announcements posted there, then that still doesn't assure you that the project is still "alive". Even if you do see activity. The activity at the forum is secondary to the fact that the distribution hasn't released in over 4 years.

Then once at the forum, if you get descended on by users, accusing you of trolling, then I would say that, irrespective of the project's status, the combination of it being 4 years since the last release and the aforementioned treatment - you might decide not to return. It doesn't take someone from the Church of the SubGenius to work out that this is toxic and detrimental to a distribution which needs funding above all else - and more users is what helps to generate more funding.

In general, if you know very little about Slackware, but wanted to try it, you would not look for changelogs to find evidence of continued development - especially if you did not know about the changelogs in the first place, and especially if the changelogs were accessed via links on the apparently unmaintained website.
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No need to reply. We do not want people who do not know what slack means.
Please just go with Ubuntu or Windows. Slackware Linux is just far beyond your scope. (And if this sounds challenging enough, dig a bit further ! )
I'm not sure who the collective "we" is that you're referring to. I wasn't aware that Slackware was an exclusive club? I used Slackware through 13.37 to 14.1 (last year I was bored during lockdown and installed 14.2 for a test run and it's as solid and dependable as ever) and never thought of it in this way. I don't believe Pat has ever set out to exclude anyone, so I have to conclude that the quote above is very much your philosophy and not the project's.

Advising people to "go with" Ubuntu or Windows is also an unhelpful. Ironically, that is exactly the kind of behaviour one used to see on the some of the distribution forums, such as the Ubuntu forums for example, from the less mature posters.
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Why didn't anyone just answer "No" to the poll without making a whole bunch of comments, and after that the topic would have been closed ?
The posts to the effect that no one should be posting in the thread are also padding the thread considerably, not to mention bumping it. It's akin being in the traffic and moaning about the traffic.

Last edited by cynwulf; 02-05-2021 at 10:25 AM. Reason: correction - 13.37 not 12.0 - no idea where I got "12.0" from...
 
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Old 02-04-2021, 07:15 AM   #68
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It looks like the last release was in 2016... seems about 4 and 1/2 years since that release... is Slackware still getting updated? Should I try to install it on a new laptop?
Yes, it’s dead. Well done. You caught us. The forum here and the -current Changelogs are all a smokescreen. We all switched to Ubuntu in 2017 and can’t get enough of those beautiful, beautiful snaps.
 
Old 02-04-2021, 09:45 AM   #69
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Originally Posted by Pithium View Post
I only have one issue with that attitude. And just to be clear I 100% agree with your opinion and am not trying to be an ass or anything..buuuuut...


If the whole point of posting that was to troll the Slackware users, then they will consider this a success and it WILL happen again. Trolling isn't about being right or wrong, it's about provoking an emotion and on the first page of posts there was a clear negative reaction to what he said. So in cases like this where some dude creates a burner account to start a fight, then he is probably laughing with his friends.


Instead of justifying the idea that slackware users are a bunch of cranky old people just answer the question and move on. And to be perfectly honest here if you know that someone is trolling and you give them what they want then you are probably the braindead one. There's a reason people say "don't feed the troll"


So if you had a choice between...

A) getting mad at the troll
B) throwing numbers from my changelog statistics project in his stupid troll face
C) ignoring the entire thread


...which would you prefer? IMO Option A seems like the braindead decision. Option B is shameless self promotion




Or maybe all of us are overthinking this and some 13 y/o kid heard about slackware for the first time and didn't think before he posted.
I agree with the troll aspect, which is why I didn't engage with the original post. I did engage with some other comments on this thread, which I do understand keeps the thread alive...
 
Old 02-04-2021, 09:47 AM   #70
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Never ceases to amuse how these 'Is Slackware Dead?' threads get so much attention.

I did chuckle at the 'undead' option however.

I've beat this dead horse, but good lord something needs to be done about Slackware's website.
 
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:00 AM   #71
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I agree with the troll aspect, which is why I didn't engage with the original post. I did engage with some other comments on this thread, which I do understand keeps the thread alive...
Wonder who the seven that voted "Yes" and the four that voted "Not sure" were?

It's understandable people thinking it's "dead" when looking at the Slackware website. But you'd honestly think if you see a forum full of posts discussing the use of Slackware, that would be a pretty good indication that there's still people using it, and therefore... it can't be "dead".
 
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:41 AM   #72
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Better it would be ask: is Slackware undead?
 
Old 02-04-2021, 12:17 PM   #73
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Undead would make sense if there were people using the software but the devs had moved on. Not the case here since the devs are still very active.
 
Old 02-04-2021, 12:26 PM   #74
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Undead as in games. Sometimes guys are very difficult to get rid off. I always play necromancer in Diablo 2.
 
Old 02-04-2021, 12:53 PM   #75
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I don't think the OP is a troll. By the looks of things he originally wrote this page:

https://docs.slackware.com/howtos:sl...lling_software

He's probably just been away from things for a while and thought he'd ask the knowledgeable and friendly community what was going on, many of whom took it upon themselves to call him a troll.
 
  


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