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Old 12-30-2023, 08:17 AM   #16
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Are you running 15.0 or Current??
 
Old 12-30-2023, 09:16 AM   #17
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Have you tried clearing your cache??
Just tried it. It doesn't make any difference on that site. Actually I didn't describe the thing correctly. The cursor does change when you mouse over the link but in the wrong way: instead of becoming an arrow or a pointing finger, it takes the form of a text cursor. Which is weird.

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Are you running 15.0 or Current??
15.0

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Old 12-30-2023, 09:27 AM   #18
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Recent months/years FireFox (FF) ESR has often been pretty slow at times... I read an article (maybe at TechRights.org) that Mozilla is deliberately making FF ESR worse because they dislike people using old versions.
Why would they hobble the ESR version when that’s the one they tout for enterprises that want browser stability?

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/enterprise/
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Get rapid releases to make sure you get the latest features faster, or go extended to ensure a super stable experience.
Can you link the article?

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Old 12-30-2023, 10:06 AM   #19
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I have encountered unusual behaviour which I believe FireFox initiated the problems. In essence the entire desktop froze, I had a race condition and could not even ssh into the desktop machine -- existing ssh connections allowed me to see the load was at 30+ and growing. I rebooted the machine and within two hours the condition happened again.

This was on slackware64 Current after an update based on Current Updates mozilla-firefox-115.6.0esr-x86_64-1

The platform is a MD Ryzen™ 5 3400G with Radeon™ RX Vega 11 Graphics & 16 GB RAM. I run a KDE desktop with Plasma 5.27.10, KDE 5 Applications 23.08.4, and KDE Frameworks 5.113 on Kernel huge 6.6.8.

It may be the unusual way I run my desktop machine -- two physical monitors with ten virtual desktops. FireFox is run with six windows with an average of 15-20 tabs per FireFox window. To add insult to injury running two VirtualBox 7.0.12 VM's. Memory consumption runs on average ~80% and CPU is normally ~25% to 60%.

For the past month I was running one of the FireFox windows as available on all ten virtual desktops running Audio Podcasts as I work. It worked fine working this way prior to the update. I always reboot the machine after an update to ensure there are no hanging apps.

After the two hangs / race conditions -- I stopped sharing the one firefox window on all ten virtual desktops. Issue went away.

Just the usual restart of firefox every 3-5 days as it slows down because of the way I work.

Yes I know I push the platform by the way I work, but had the race condition twice on the same day after basically working the same way for the past two years. FireFox was the culprit.

And Voila -- found some references to a race condition bug in the past week:

https://security.snyk.io/vuln/SNYK-C...IREFOX-6133175

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This vulnerability affects Firefox ESR < 115.6, Thunderbird < 115.6, and Firefox < 121.
 
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Old 12-30-2023, 10:25 AM   #20
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... no address appears at the bottom of the page. It's as if the link were dead. But it's just a visual thing; clicking on the link still works normally. And it's not just in Slackware either. I'm currently using a later version of FF in AntiX and seeing the same thing.

Harmless but tiresome.
@Hazel, agreed it's tiresome, and annoying. Links should always be clearly highlighted, and hovering should show the full link, on all browsers.

I've seen this behaviour in FF for awhile, and only with some links, although I can't remember when it started, or in which cases. I use FF and FF ESR on Slackware 15.0 and -current, on Ubuntu flavours LTS and current (sometimes with apparmor and seccomp), and on Windows 10 and 11. I can't say with absolute certainty, but I'm almost sure I've seen this on more than one combination of OS and FF version.

I don't know what causes that or how to fix it. I don't click links when I can't see the full link, so a (tiresome) way I sometimes work around that is by copying the link into a text editor to view it to try to make sure it's not suspect.

As for link visibility, as of release 121.0, FF has added the option to force links to be underlined (Settings - General - Browsing - Always underline links.)

I hadn't thought of this before, but another (tiresome) way I will try to work around this is to try to open the same webpage in a text browser and inspect the links there.

I'm not seeing the other problems mentioned in this thread on any FF version on any OS. FF and FF ESR don't run more slowly or "worse" for me (on the same web pages) than Chrome or Chromium-based browsers; either FF works, or it doesn't work because some fool has decreed that their website shall work only on Chrome. When I can, if I have the chance to tell someone, I will let them know that if they do that, I won't use their website and won't do business with them. Unfortunately, of course, sometimes there is no alternative or only a much worse one.
 
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The cursor does change when you mouse over the link but in the wrong way: instead of becoming an arrow or a pointing finger, it takes the form of a text cursor. Which is weird.
15.0 here as well

And it's only that link, with that one particular site..

Congrats... you buried the needle on my "Weird-Sh**-o-Meter"


I am curious and wish I could duplicate what you're seeing.

If you're game close all instances of Firefox, rename your mozilla profile directory (~/.mozilla to .mozilla-org) and start firefox

If there's no change, all you will need to do is shutdown firefox, delete the new .mozilla directory and rename .mozilla-org back to .mozilla
 
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@slak-uke: I'm currently using FF-115.6 on AntiX and it hasn't frozen on me yet (cross fingers).

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Old 12-30-2023, 11:06 AM   #23
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If you're game close all instances of Firefox, rename your mozilla profile directory (~/.mozilla to .mozilla-org) and start firefox

If there's no change, all you will need to do is shutdown firefox, delete the new .mozilla directory and rename .mozilla-org back to .mozilla
No, it doesn't make any difference. So its not a cookie setting.
 
Old 12-30-2023, 11:40 AM   #24
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No, it doesn't make any difference. So its not a cookie setting.
No, I was wondering if it was an issue with an extension you might be running,

This is starting to look like a possible driver issue, though I don't know why it would only surface with one element on this one site..

Do you get the same results with Chromium? - http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slac..._64-1alien.txz
 
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Do you get the same results with Chromium? - http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slac..._64-1alien.txz
Yes, I do, exactly. It's the site!
 
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Old 12-31-2023, 01:40 AM   #26
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The Spectator is loaded with stuff that Privacy Badger and Ublock Origin block for me. I use them and DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials and Facebook Container. I don't know what is going on but I suggest trying privacy add-ons if you haven't since it seems website specific (unless I've misread the thread).
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Old 12-31-2023, 01:58 AM   #27
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OK, marking this one solved.
 
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Yes, I do, exactly. It's the site!
Odd I couldn't reproduce the issue on my side....
 
  


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