I have the adduser problem on a fresh install, installing from the slackware15 iso in vbox at the console. I don't think I have the issue if installing from the net or using a console in X, I haven't seen the issue with a bare-metal install, but haven't had a chance to thoroughly check it out yet.

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Stuck in the 90s, he says.

Shakespeare goes all the way back to the 90s as well.

The 1590s.

Does Jesse think the whole world should stop studying Shakespeare? Just because, you know, it goes without saying that modern = better?

I'll stop studying Shakespeare and his plays from the "90s" when Jesse can point to a better writer in the 2020s.

No hurry.

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I discovered Slackware in 2011, and I sticked to it.

Cheers!

The sad truth is that modern is often worse, and a good example of that is websites. Undoutedly my general view is subjective, but my example bbcnews.com is objective. Various pages follow that same model as bbc, while others follow the clutter and script model that I subjectively think is worse.
Back about 10 years ago, bbcnews.com used to provide an easily navigatable page for computers (large screen and landscape mode), and another version of the same page for mobiles (m.bbcnews.com). But at some point they decided to become "modern", so they switched the whole page to be m.bbcnews.com and basically dropped support for PC and landscape mode screens.

I haven't used the page since, it's completely unusable. Navigation is impossible and not categorized or available anymore, and the page uses only 1/3rd of the screenspace, so everything is cluttered in the middle. The whole page is just one huge long scroll page without proper navigation. In short, the page is useless for anything but portrait mode mobile (which in itself is a design flaw).

Anyways, the point is not bccnews, but it is a wider symbol of "modernity" in many cases, and that modernity can mean better, but also can mean worse. And many things are exactly like bbc, implementing misguided "modernity" for the sake of modernity without any thought behind it or adherance to other things like quality or general usability (or in equivilent cases "control") or metholology.

We live in interesting times, and now we might have to fight again for what we took for granted in the past, due to it being slowly removed by "modernity". If it works, don't fix it, if it's good don't make it bad instead.

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I suspect that the author has never used UNIX. If he had, he would recognize the Slackware way of doing things as the UNIX way.

The article should have noted that if one is looking for a modern UNIX-like Linux distro, there are essentially no other choices.
Ed

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Shakespeare? But I heard that this guy was banned from the western schools.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...onization.html
https://nypost.com/2021/02/16/shakes...sogyny-racism/
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinio...mn/4629748001/
https://www.goacta.org/news-item/stu...e_requirement/
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...rriculum-abou/

Well yes, Lucky : Shakespeare is "stuck in the 90s."

So the moderns, who know so much more, need to revise him, correct him, re-imagine him, bring him into the modern world.

I taught Shakespeare and other areas of English literature at university back in the early 90s. These people were just then taking a stranglehold on the discipline. I couldn't abide their intolerance and abandoned academia altogether. Things have got far worse since.

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Can we get back to the point?

Probably because it's modern to be delusional. People and the nation the US has never been less racist in it's entire history. Except some people now want to start dividing everyone by this and that again (those same people who want to censor Shakespeare and edit the language). So sadly racism might be growing among that particular fringe minority

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Yes.

Did you all drop a review on distrowatch yet? I've not yet, because I want to try more things to get a more fine grained understanding of the details. Although, I don't think it would matter if I dropped a review today or in 3 weeks, it will still be equally positive! Just with more details.

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The safe way is to perform a full installation but he opted to deselect packages. And then he tries to remove packages with their dependencies (because he knows that slackpkg does not has automatic dependency revolution) and the system did not break. So i understand his anger.
(and then he yells for his flatpaks and for the other init system)

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CBA read/look at yet another shitty review about Slackware:

If they CBA to RTFM how to install a quite simple to install OS - i don't really care to waste time on them (yet another lame reviewer/over-self-entitled influencer).

I can tell you all this: my one son tried and gave up on Slackware (as he failed at installing nvidia blob (sic!))
The other son endured the learning curve and is now in love with Slackware's robustness and reliability after distro hopping for a while - he has formed an informed opinion.

So, let me tell you - lame Slackware reviews are hot air IMHO. Mere lack of comprehension hands down.

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Had the reviewer attempted balance instead of invective it would have been more effective. Anyone reading that - and it will be seen for years now - is immediately going to ignore it as bias. Slackware continues to maintain its philosophy and that's far more of an asset to the world than another all-singing all-dancing populist contender. I enjoyed putting a fresh 15.0 on my two year old Thinkpad, and I had none of the nonsense our reviewer documented. I'm quite sure he could have done it properly had he wanted to.

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Agreed.
But I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you there.

While it may be true that the greatest majority of Linux distributions are all headed down the same road... and that the differences between, say, Debian and RedHat are becoming fewer and harder to pick... not all distributions are the same.

The fact that the oldest and sanest distribution stubbornly refuses to follow the pack in implementing poor, but convenient design choices makes it continue to stand out... and that is the reason why I think some reviewers appear bitter in their estimation of Slackware. Subconsciously, they resent where "Linux" is headed, but they're too invested to change now.

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I've watched many distroes come and go and drop on the distrowatch "ranking", but throughout I've always seen Slackware fairly high up on the list.
I know that doesn't actually measure popularity, but it's something. The oldest distro is still high up there

And in all fairness, there have been some ups and downs, but from my experience with Slackware 15.0 so far, I think a surge in popularity would be well deserved. It would be well worth for young people today to pick up Slackware and give it a go (like I did 20 years ago). It's a solid desktop distro for casuals as well and most common use cases, and I think others can speak better about servers than I can, but it seems like a rock solid choice for that use as well. And quite clearly the best choice for any developer (what other distro comes with so many dev tools?), and by that I also mean it is an excellent choice for an educational distro (in schools, universities etc). All in all and overall it is the distro that offers the most of any distro I know by far, and by far most diverse.

That's not even enthusiasm, that's just plain fact. It might not be the premier desktop distro, but in all other categories it's premier or among the premier. And it's a pretty darn good desktop distro as well. And I'm talking 15.0 here, so when I'm talking surge, in reality it should be a top3 distro choice for pretty much anyone 15.0 and post 15.0.

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