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Old 01-16-2008, 09:36 AM   #1
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Question Difference between .0 and 01 versions of Mandriva???


I never understood the release cycle of mandriva.....what is the difference between .0 and .1 version???

For examplw what is difference between
Mandriva One 2007
Mandriva Linux 2007
Mandriva Linux 2007.1 and so on......

Somebody please explain me the release cycle of mandriva or gimme some liks to the explanation......

Thanx in advance
 
Old 01-16-2008, 10:20 AM   #2
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Let's say the .1 release is a "service pack". Kernel stays the same.
 
Old 01-16-2008, 10:31 AM   #3
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Mandriva One is the livecd version of Mandriva. I believe it is only released once a year and it's based off of the ".0" release. IIRC you can do a hard drive install from Mandriva One but you are much better off using their regular non-livecd releases for doing a hard drive installation of Mandriva.

Mandriva releases twice a year, once in the fall and once in the spring, for its non-livecd releases. These are meant to be installed to the hard drive. Mandriva 2007 was the first one released in the fall of 2006 and Mandriva 2007.1 was the second one released in the spring of 2007. The most current Mandriva release is Mandriva 2008 which was released in the fall of 2007 and they are already working on 2008.1 which will be released in the spring of 2008.
 
Old 01-16-2008, 11:50 AM   #4
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Kilgore, I don't think that's quite right. The -1 versions, released in spring, are indeed "service pack" versions of the fall release, so they contain consistent software and libraries as a unit. There are "live" versions of both, one in fall and one in spring.

My understanding is that the live version is preferred for fresh installs. Unlike the "free" version, it contains proprietary (but freely available) drivers, most notably the latest nvidia and madwifi drivers. You can install the "free" versions and later update from the GPL'd default drivers (nv, for instance) when you connect to the repositories. I guess it's considered slightly more painful to do that, especially with all the 3-D graphics stuff (like Compiz-Fusion) that's now in use (which doesn't work with the open-source drivers).

Of course, with the one-CD live version, then you will eventually install other things manually as you need or want them, but that doesn't seem to be as confusing to newcomers as installing the video drivers. I found you get a pretty good initial set of software either way.
 
Old 01-16-2008, 12:25 PM   #5
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I stand corrected although I'm sure mandriva would not agree that there ".1" releases are "service packs" but that probably depends on what you mean by that term. For example, I think 2008.1 is going to include kde 4.0 as an alternative DE but still default to the most recent kde 3.5.x. KDE 4.0 wasn't released when mdv 2008 was released. These type of things aren't normally included in service packs. If you run all the updates for mdv2007 you will not have the same system as mdv2007.1, but it will be very close. The ".1" releases typically include more than just the updates to the ".0" release.

As for the mandriva one comments, your points are well taken, but personally, I don't like the kernel in the "one" livecds as virtually everything is compiled into that kernel if not directly, at least as modules. That makes sense for a livecd but I don't like it for an installed system. A lot of development packages are not included on the "one" livecds either which I find annoying. But having the proprietary drivers is definitely a plus for those unfamiliar with how to get that stuff by adding the necessary repos for urpmi.
 
Old 01-16-2008, 04:30 PM   #6
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Kilgore,
Agreed, especially with your comment that Mandriva probably does not think it's a "service pack". Calling it that was probably sloppy on my part.
Still, Mandriva has only done this twice now, and 2007.1 was really a gentle upgrade to 2007. Welcome, yes, but nothing drastic.

Firewiz - I hope this helps!
 
Old 01-17-2008, 12:46 AM   #7
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Thank u for the replies.....

So the mandriva Linux 2008 released a few months ago is 2008.0 version and the next scheduled release ths year(or is it already released????) will be 2008.1 ??

And mandriva one 2008 is the live CD???

Is there a remarkable difference that ll allow me to distinguish the .0 and .1 versions on a computer???
 
Old 01-17-2008, 01:04 AM   #8
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I wish to offer a slight correction. In the Mandrake days, the distribution released version.o then version.1 and finally version.2 for each version level (6, 7, 8, 9, and 10) over a span of about a year and a half to a year and three quarters. Mandrake Linux version 10.2 was the transitional version from Mandrake to Mandriva (a.k.a. Mandriva Linux 2005 LE). Mandriva Linux 2005 LE was a short lived Limited edition. Mandriva Linux 2006.0 was the only release for the 2006 version, but with Mandriva Linux 2007, there was a return to multiple releases for each version (e.g.: 2007.0 and 2007.1). Unless they change their developmental cycle again, each fall we can expect an initial release (version.0) numbered for the following year, and each spring a secondary release (version.1).

Historically, the version.0 releases have been more troublesome than subsequent releases, but that no longer seems to be the case. I found Mandriva 2007.0 to be an improvement on Mandriva 2006.0, and I find 2008.0 to be better than 2007.1, and I eagerly anticipate the release of 2008.1.

By definition, the release of Mandriva Linux 2008.0 is a major (significant) upgrade (change) of the previous version (Mandriva Linux 2007.1) and Mandriva Linux 2008.1 will be a minor (less significant) upgrade (change) of Mandriva Linux 2008.0. Each release gets its own package updates for bug fixes and security patches across the span of its supported life, so even if you have all the package updates for Mandriva Linux 2008.0, it will never become Mandriva Linux 2008.1 because that is a different version.

HTH,
 
Old 01-20-2008, 11:47 AM   #9
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Thank you so much guys!!!
 
  


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