What are the most common technical Linux issues of 2017?
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I think we need to distinguish things that are an issue for the average user and those that are an issue for enthusiasts and tinkerers. For a user who installs a decent distro and gets their software from the repository, the only real problem they're likely to get is with hardware support. Admittedly, documentation could be better. Compare the pdf manual of Mint with the jungle of Ubuntu's wiki, or the detail in the OpenOffice manuals with that for Gnucash.
No issues for me, except a bit of tweaking/testing because I have brand new video hardware which is not supported by Nouveau. Been running Linux for nearly 20 years and it has improved so drastically, if I use a "click next installer" distro, like Mint, Ubuntu, Manjaro, everything just works out of the box. Of course I do not use a "click next installer" distro so have a few things to set up but rarely have issues.
I see a lot of comments in this thread about documentation, or lack of rather. In the proprietary world, documentation is lacking in many products as well. Developers are developers and some do not like to write documentation, regardless of the development methodology used (closed vice open source). I love man pages actually - some are better than others but for the most part they give me everything I need.
I think this "little" OS has done remarkably well considering its roots and the fact it is community developed. I absolutely depend on it at home and it has never let me down.
I migrated from Windows to Deepin, and so far I have had no problems.
But in the Linux world the most common problems are:
1) Driver for video card
2) There is no software similar to the one used in Windows
the second option was already a problem for me, so it took me so long to migrate from platform, but today it is not anymore.
As I learned on the "Toca Toca" channel ...
Linux, Windows, Mac OSX, are platforms, and just like Xbox and Playstation ...
if you want to play a game that is exclusive to the Xbox, it's no use having Playstation ...
if you want to play a game that is exclusive to Playstation, it's no use having Xbox ...
Thinking in this way you suffer less, and adapt to the reality of each system.
So today I use Deepin and am very satisfied with the system.
Last edited by hastrogirdo; 10-04-2017 at 05:11 PM.
Welcome to LQ hastrogirdo; Edit: thanks for the edit-translation to English!!!
My addition to the thread would be: a multiboot live usb creator that works interchangably on both Linux and M$Win, for the top 100 in DistroWatch. (esp. Slack*, and helps Newbie with XP-10+ try out all kinds of linux, trivially)
Last edited by !!!; 10-04-2017 at 05:57 PM.
Reason: Poster translated above post, while I commented...
I don’t know if experts have already found a solution to this without suggesting tiling window manager. In desktop Linux (with GUI) the windows do not remember their old positions when you open them and pop out in random places , with the exception of Geany (one of the reasons I like that one). It's annoying and inefficient when you have to reposition windows every time. I've tried devilspie2 which can only seem control Thunar in my experience. The rc.xml in Openbox seems to be ignored by a lot of apps. With xfce4-terminal, though, I've succeeded in adding position to the part in the config file where it says geometry. So I visited some sites where apps that I like are developed and did a little searching and looked if there was a feature request section. It would be nice if apps had a geometry option that you could put in the keyboard shortcuts or in the menu, at least for now.
I agree. But a G.U.I. option on how to correct it.
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Python version ambiguity has caused me grief twice recently. My work-a-day system (mint 17.3) uses python 2.7.6, but some software packages depend on python 3.x requiring installation of a second version of python. Every now and then these versions clash, most recently bringing down the mint menus. Developers who absolutely must use the latest version of the software tools they use to build software need to be cautious about building in dependencies that might break a potential user's OS. The dependency checks should be expressed as "python version > 2.7" rather than "python version 3.4.3"
The only remaining issue for me on Ubuntu 16.04 is this;I really miss Adobe Lightroom for its raw photo editing features. I have not seen a Linux program that can touch it (yet).Perhaps I should look at proprietary Linux software.
I migrated from Windows to Deepin, and so far I have had no problems.
But in the Linux world the most common problems are:
1) Driver for video card
2) There is no software similar to the one used in Windows
the second option was already a problem for me, so it took me so long to migrate from platform, but today it is not anymore.
As I learned on the "Toca do Tux" channel ...
Linux, Windows, Mac OSX, are platforms, and just like Xbox and Playstation ...
if you want to play a game that is exclusive to the Xbox, it's no use having Playstation ...
if you want to play a game that is exclusive to Playstation, it's no use having Xbox ...
Thinking in this way you suffer less, and adapt to the reality of each system.
So today I use Deepin and am very satisfied with the system.
Linux desktop environment quirks (Linux still not ready to be your primary desktop)
Power management sucks (you never know who's handling your display or what happens when you close the lid)
Xorg is a mess, you can set a standard DPI for everything, grub keeps it's own, tty keeps it's own, display manager keeps it's own, DE keeps it's own, Applications keeps it's own
Smaller Issues:
> Installers are basic
> USB and external drives handling is still difficult
> Can't grab the scroll bar when you move you mouse to the very right edge and click, same goes for closing the windows by going to very top right (or top left), happens in xfce, openbox, gnome you name it
> Chromium and Chrome asking for gnome-keyring (oh! why o why)
Linux desktop environment quirks (Linux still not ready to be your primary desktop)
Power management sucks (you never know who's handling your display or what happens when you close the lid)
Xorg is a mess, you can set a standard DPI for everything, grub keeps it's own, tty keeps it's own, display manager keeps it's own, DE keeps it's own, Applications keeps it's own
These issues do not exist for everyone but I agree with your Linux/laptop comment. I have been using Linux as my primary desktop (pc, not laptop) for 19 years. In my opinion, Windows has more quirks and bugs than Linux ever had in any version. Every time I go to work I am constantly cussing at windows 10 because the UI is so buggy and poorly designed.
I have heard other comments about xorg but have never experienced any of them. Wayland is (I have read) a step in the right direction but is not ready for prime time. Since the hardware we all run Linux on is so widely varied, and because Linux is so widely varied, issues are bound to crop up.
> USB and external drives handling is still difficult
> Can't grab the scroll bar when you move you mouse to the very right edge and click, same goes for closing the windows by going to very top right (or top left), happens in xfce, openbox, gnome you name it
USB and external drives handling is very easy in MX Linux, it's plug and play. As for the scroll bar I haven't experienced those issues. Sounds like a distro issue and not an Xfce issue. Which Linux distro do you have?
USB and external drives handling is very easy in MX Linux, it's plug and play. As for the scroll bar I haven't experienced those issues. Sounds like a distro issue and not an Xfce issue. Which Linux distro do you have?
External drives do not play well with any distro i tried, they have inconsistent copying speed and some other hassles like the progress bars finish before the copy is completed, even the copy dialog closes before the copy is completed, so when i eject the thumb drive it says that it's still in use.
Ref: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2033090
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Deepin sem problemas
( okay a bit extreme I know 
