The final Suse 10.1 will have desktop improvement or not? Like Windows Vista?
What is XGL?

Opensuse does release beta in two week cycles, but the team is also releasing factory-version, which will be updated almost daily. The factory contains every bugfix( and also new bugs). So the progress is going on all the time...

So if one wants a bugfix, one can always download the updated package from the factory repository.

Because beta6 is now fully freezed, there wont be any new packages, so it would be waste of bandwidth and storage space to release bugfixes with full isos.

SLES / NLD is a different thing and with different programs, but those two have been releasing betas at the same pace. Now the suse 10.1. is in quite good condition, so the next beta (public release) will be skipped.

XGL will be included, but it is just pre-alpha version. It can be used, but full potential can be seen in the future. Read THIS for more info.

Vista has got that eye-candy thing, but that is still buggy and takes too much memory and cpu time. Will it be released with the final version, who knows.

My notebooks is running well with SUSE 10.0, i think i will only do a upgrade by end of this year.

The beta6 install was fairly painless. The only hic-cup was when it recognized the LCD monitor and set the resolution but went out of range when initializing YaST. Had to change it to vesa. I was playing with mySQL and noticed one notable omission: phpMyAdmin.

Beta6 install was painless except for having to choose the partitioning correctly. It wanted to repartition my linux partitions, ignored my already existent /boot partition. Basically I had to tell it to just reformat the 2 partitions, not repartition it. lol

Trying to get ndiswrapper working, and it wont work. I've done the usual ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf and confirmed ndiswrapper -l shows hardware present, driver installed. Performed ndiswrapper -m and it "says" modprobe config already contains alias directive. I type modprobe ndiswrapper and says Module ndiswrapper not found. Hmmm, Suse 10.0 recognized it easy.

Looks like there's still quite a few bugs to me in Suse 10.1.

Anyone have any luck w/ ndiswrapper w/ 10.1 beta 6?

The new kernel should contain most of the wlan drivers (atleast centrino family ip2100/ipw2200).
NetworkManager should take care of the rest.

OpenSuse is opensource, so every closed source and third party component/software wont be included, although they can be downloaded with the extra 6th add-on cd in the future.

I have never liked ndiswrapper, because dont like the idea of using windows drivers, there should be native linux drivers. Unfortunatly sometimes one just havent got choice. But I havent tried it yet the thing with beta6. If you found a bug, please report the problem to bugzilla.

PhpMyAdmin wasn't available on suse10 media if I can remember correctly.

Its easy to download from repositories as rpm or download from website and extract to www/htdoc/phpMyAdmin.

I'm writing this on 10.0 which has phpMyAdmin installed via the eval DVD.

Oops. I stand corrected. It came from the infamous 'alternate source'.

Official beta8 announcement

Couple of new bugs, but mainly the new beta is working correctly:

* The Windows Domain Membership dialog ("Samba authentification"), when called during installation, is empty.
* rug installs i586 binary instead of x86_64 Bug 158187
* The default runlevel is 3 on x86-64 systems (not on i386) Bug 158602
* xen needs the xen-libs package which is not on the media,

Package changes
* Linux kernel 2.6.16 rc 6
* Update to gcc 4.1.0 release
* Update to glibc 2.4 release
* Evolution 2.6.0

After installing Beta8, a couple of comments:
Screen resolution still goes out of range during install with an LCD monitor. Again, I had to change to vesa. Once installed it correctly configured the display.
KDE runs like a three-legged dog compared to Beta6. Same machine. Clean install after using the HDD manufacterer's utility to wipe the disk.

I will wait for the final release, not long ahead.

Where will you be able to get the extra CD?

The 6th cd will be offered by Novell. No download links available yet, but just wait for the gold master in april..

i don't see major difference between suse 10.0 and 10.1

Asssuming you updated everything anyway, like Xorg, KDE version to 3.5.1, your kernel... then quite frankly, the differences would be quite small indeed. And quite subtle to the untrained eye. Most of the differences would be in updated versioning and configuration ability, and the core SuSE, like YAST updates. 10.1 isn't supposed to be a whole new version where everything is radically different, it is... an update. Version 9-10 would be a noticable update. 9.1 to 9.2 not so much. That is true with most software, if you understand versioning. If it was supposed to be a major overhaul, it wouldn't be a minor version, a decimal, it would be a major version, a whole number.

You should never expect an astonishing difference that will change your life or radically alter a product in minor versions. You can read the change logs, the vast majority of 10.1 over 10.0 is updates to gcc, kernel, software versions, etc. But they did through in a bit more if you want to look for it. Check around, the way YAST works isn't the same, but most of the changes are not cosmetic, they are under the skin, in the workings of it and other SuSE components. The reason 10.1 is different from 10.0 updated by hand is in these differences, and in that many find the experience of updating major pieces like KDE and kernel appaling, or maybe beyond them depending on the case. It is far easier to start from 10.1 than manually updating. And assuming you do start in 10.0 you won't have many behind the scenes YAST updates and other things.

If you really want to delve deep into what the differences are... there won't be any major ones because that isn't how it works. But of course, it does have XGL and other completely new things, maybe you should check out some of these things before you say such a truly broad and unclear statement. Though it is true, in your case you may see no difference at all, it might be that way you used SuSE 10.0, nothing will really have such an obvious difference you would notice 10.1's differences. That is all in what you do, how hard you look, and what you understand about what lies beneath.

So far I see Windows Vista and XP got a lot of GUI's difference,
but this is not the same thing happends to Suse.
I think i won't update to suse 10.1, it is waste of time for installation, my suse 10.0 is working fine in my Laptop.