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Old 05-06-2019, 07:40 AM   #1291
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I've noticed in -current, in my install anyway, that the huge kernel takes significantly less time to boot.

Timing it, generic takes 67 seconds from kernel boot to login prompt, whereas the huge kernel takes just 47 seconds [this is with the latest, 4.19.40].

What could be the reason for this? I always thought one of the reasons to use generic was that it is faster to boot, but these days, in 2019, maybe there is less reason to use generic.
Agreed, as was discussed by the authors of posts #56 through #62 (approximately) on pages two and three of this thread.

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Old 05-06-2019, 10:02 AM   #1292
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Timing it, generic takes 67 seconds from kernel boot to login prompt, whereas the huge kernel takes just 47 seconds
If you pass init=/bin/bash argument, more precise measure can be done.
This way you're timing the boot of Slackware runlevel 4, and not the kernel boot which should only take a couple of seconds to initialize.
For comparison, cold boot > xdm login takes around 9 seconds here, while cold boot > /bin/bash takes 5. If I were to measure full install with all rc executables, it would take more than a minute.
I think the diff is because generic setup loads many individual modules from disk, and huge deploys them in memory from a single file.
 
Old 05-06-2019, 10:09 AM   #1293
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Huge kernel, 4.19.40, run level 3, from start to command prompt, 16:37 seconds.
 
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That was good, but let's do it one more time and his time with FEELING! Put some emotion in it!


Another round of updates has been scheduled for release Wednesday afternoon, GMT.

If no problems are found while testing the release candidates, they might be available late Tuesday or early Wednesday (depending on your time zone).

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Old 05-06-2019, 10:58 AM   #1295
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Huge kernel, 4.19.40, run level 3, from start to command prompt, 16:37 seconds.
It's faster than that with overclocked memory and root on ssd. Traditional disk takes time to spin, and some memory is just slow.
All this adds a few seconds, depending on hardware. That's not even counting the time added by various checks, optional features such as randomization, memory poisoning, etc.
Accelerating the boot sequence is ongoing process, there's always room for more optimization.
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That was good, but let's do it one more time and his time with FEELING! Put some emotion in it!
I don't get your joke, care to explain what's going on here?
 
Old 05-06-2019, 11:05 AM   #1296
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...I don't get your joke, care to explain what's going on here?
Oops, sorry about that.

I guess one would have had to play in a band or orchestra to get it. You have practiced a piece over and over and just when you think it has all come together the conductor taps his baton on his music stand and says.........

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That was good, but let's do it one more time and this time with FEELING! Put some emotion in it!
It was all in references to the recent rapid kernel updates.
Get it?

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Old 05-06-2019, 11:14 AM   #1297
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It was all in references to the recent rapid kernel updates.
Yes, it's a combined effort which makes a band good. I'm just not into orchestra, so I missed that point.
 
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Old 05-08-2019, 07:07 AM   #1298
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Kernel updates 5.0.14, 4.19.41, 4.14.117 and 4.9.174 are now available at,

https://www.kernel.org/

The change logs,

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...angeLog-5.0.14

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...ngeLog-4.19.41

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...geLog-4.14.117

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...ngeLog-4.9.174

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Old 05-09-2019, 02:38 PM   #1299
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Another round of updates has been scheduled for release Saturday evening, GMT.

If no problems are found while testing the release candidates, they might be available late Friday or early Saturday (depending on your time zone).

Included in this batch will be the first update to the 5.1 series (30 patches).

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Old 05-10-2019, 11:16 AM   #1300
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Kernel updates 5.0.15, 4.19.42, 4.14.118 and 4.9.175 are now available at

https://www.kernel.org/

The change logs,

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...angeLog-5.0.15

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...ngeLog-4.19.42

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...geLog-4.14.118

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...ngeLog-4.9.175

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Old 05-11-2019, 07:17 AM   #1301
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5.1.1

The first kernel update for 5.1 series is now available at

https://www.kernel.org/

The change log, https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...hangeLog-5.1.1

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Old 05-12-2019, 08:35 AM   #1302
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3.16.67

Kernel update 3.16.67 is now available at,

https://www.kernel.org/

The change log, https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...ngeLog-3.16.67

Mr. Hutchings' announcement and diff file,
http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/k...5.1/03435.html

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Old 05-14-2019, 02:17 PM   #1303
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"Danger, Will Robinson!"

The following updates came as a complete surprise and without the usual testing.

Please read the following "warning."
I added the emphasis.

http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/k...5.1/05371.html
Quote:
Linux 5.1.2
From: Greg KH
Date: Tue May 14 2019 - 14:06:11 EST

I'm announcing the release of the 5.1.2 kernel.

All users of the 5.1 kernel series must upgrade. Well, kind of, let me rephrase that...

All users of Intel processors made since 2011 must upgrade.

Note, this release, and the other stable releases that are all being
released right now at the same time, just went out all contain patches
that have only seen the "public eye" for about 5 minutes. So be
forwarned, they might break things, they might not build, but hopefully
they fix things.
Odds are we will be fixing a number of small things in
this area for the next few weeks as things shake out on real hardware
and workloads. So don't think you are done updating your kernel, you
never are done with that

As for what specifically these changes fix, I'll let the tech news sites
fill you in on the details. Or go read the excellently written Xen
Security Advisory 297:
https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/advisory-297.html
That should give you a good idea of what a number of people have been
dealing with for many many many months now.

Many thanks goes out to Thomas Gleixner for going above and beyond to do
the backports to the 5.1, 5.0, 4.19, and 4.14 kernel trees, and to Ben
Hutchings for doing the 4.9 work. And of course to all of the
developers who have been working on this in secret and doing reviews of
the many different proposals and versions of the patches.

As I said before just over a year ago, Intel once again owes a bunch of
people a lot of drinks for fixing their hardware bugs, in our
software...

Anyway, as usual, the updated 5.1.y git tree can be found at:
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git linux-5.1.y
and can be browsed at the normal kernel.org git web browser:
https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kern....git;a=summary

thanks,

greg k-h

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Kernel updates 5.1.2, 5.0.16, 4.19.43, 4.14.119 and 4.9.176 are available at

https://www.kernel.org/

The change logs,

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...hangeLog-5.1.2

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...angeLog-5.0.16

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...ngeLog-4.19.43

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...geLog-4.14.119

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...ngeLog-4.9.176

From the above mentioned Xen Security Advisory,
https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/advisory-297.html

Quote:
.......VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================

Systems running all versions of Xen are affected.

Only x86 processors are vulnerable.
ARM processors are not believed to be vulnerable.

Only Intel based processors are potentially affected. Processors from
other manufacturers (eg, AMD) are not believed to be vulnerable.

Please consult the Intel Security Advisory for details on the affected
processors, and which are getting microcode updates.......

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Old 05-14-2019, 02:25 PM   #1304
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With the new kernel, without the new Intel microcode, I get
Code:
cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/mds
Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled
and with the new microcode
Code:
Mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
 
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Old 05-14-2019, 04:24 PM   #1305
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With the new kernel, without the new Intel microcode, I get
Code:
cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/mds
Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled
and with the new microcode
Code:
Mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
same results here on a i5-3570k after kernel and microcode update.
Code:
Mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
got the new microcodes here
Code:
 https://github.com/intel/Intel-Linux-Processor-Microcode-Data-Files/releases/tag/microcode-20190514

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