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Old 06-08-2018, 07:45 PM   #1
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is it normal?


I installed puppy linux on my 1 gb ram old laptop, everything runs very fast. But when i tried some website lets say Whatsapp web, it gets very laggy and then freeze after 1 minutes or more. the browser i tried was the default one and opera, both have same synthoms but opera is slower.
 
Old 06-08-2018, 08:13 PM   #2
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My first guess would be runaway scripts.

Try starting an instance of top or htop, then open a browser. The output to the terminal may give you hints as to what is eating up your CPU cycles.

If you have a script-blocker plugin from your browser(s), block all scripts and test the performance. It it does not degrade, then turn the scripts back on selectively; you may be able to identify the culprit.

Then report back what you find.
 
Old 06-08-2018, 08:26 PM   #3
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is it normal?

does pale moon browser has ability to install such plugin? thanks for the reply ill try to monitor the thing when i am home.
 
Old 06-08-2018, 08:41 PM   #4
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Just because (a) Puppy runs fast because all puppies do, ever try chasing one?
The software on it will not necessary do the same because it is not puppy, it is application(s) installed onto the OS. Webpages with everything they put on them now days takes a fast cpu, and enough RAM or HDD cache space, to download and hold it in order to show it, and or play it in a "timely manner".

that goes for everything (app) you install on it.

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Old 06-08-2018, 08:43 PM   #5
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I haven't used Pale Moon, so I can't help with that.
 
Old 06-08-2018, 10:46 PM   #6
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frankbell, what is the browser you are using? and whats the best for puppy?
 
Old 06-09-2018, 04:10 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by ahiunglim View Post
I installed puppy linux on my 1 gb ram old laptop, everything runs very fast. But when i tried some website lets say Whatsapp web, it gets very laggy and then freeze after 1 minutes or more.
yes, this is normal.
1GB is not much and it's safe to assume that the cpu is equally slow.
install noscript addon (available for most browsers), or use a browser like dillo or netsurf.

your WWW-experience will be diminished, though. but no lightweight browser or distro can fix that; it's the WWW of 2018 that sucks.
 
Old 06-09-2018, 05:04 AM   #8
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Palemoon is a recompile optimized mozilla (spelled FireFox) engine. The FireFox modules should work.
 
Old 06-09-2018, 05:07 AM   #9
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thanks for reply ondoho, I pretty much realized that 1GB ram is insanely low for todays internet surfing, I kinda eant to try to put extra Gig on SWAP but I dont think that might help much tho. about the noscript experience, what do i lost from the regular scripted web? Do i still can see flash player, video, or something like that?

I havent tried diddo, but I tried to install the "hv3" browser with .pet extension, but I couldnt found the app at all after installed, I dont know about this stuffs and still learning how.
 
Old 06-09-2018, 05:11 AM   #10
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I just got home and trying to run Youtube videos on Pale Moon, 2-5 minutes were fine, then it got laggy and uncontrollable. The [top] reports was like this:
VSZ 9490m
%VSZ 1024%
CPU 1
%CPU 34%
palemoon
 
Old 06-12-2018, 05:48 AM   #11
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@ ahiunglim:-

I have to agree with ondoho on this one. Adding extra RAM won't make that big a difference, not where browsing's concerned.

My old Dell lappie (16 this year!), triple-booting 3 Pups, has a Pentium 4, and 1.5 GB RAM. It originally came with 128 MB (!), but that got upgraded years ago.

Extra RAM will help with most of the built-in apps, because they're chosen/compiled for their light weight nature. They won't have all the fancy eye-candy, but they're still just as functional.

But as ondoho says, it's the modern web that's the problem. Sites simply are getting 'heavier' & 'heavier'; there's precious little any of us can do about that. And sites like YouTube & Facebook are major culprits in this respect.

For browsing, you're best to stick with PaleMoon. We've discovered, through trial & error, that PaleMoon is one of the lightest, full-featured browsers you can get for Puppy.....which is why it now comes with many Pups/Puplets as the default one. Pretty much all Firefox add-ons are compatible.....but do make sure you select the 'legacy' versions. Add-ons re-built for the new 'Quantum' ecosphere will not work with it.

(PaleMoon was developed by a bunch of former Mozilla employees who didn't like the direction that Firefox was heading in.....and that's why it tends to look like the older, pre 'Australis'-interface versions.)

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Frank's suggestion is a good one. NoScript and uBlock Origin are what I use myself, and between them they will stop/cut down on 99% of the crap out there on the 'net.

If you can let us have the computer's specs (CPU, RAM, HDD, graphics card/chip.....that kind of thing), and also the Puppy you're using, I may be able to come up with a few more suggestions for you.

(BTW; what's the 'hv3' browser? I've been using Puppy for years, and even I've never heard of that one.....)

EDIT:- Christ, that's 10 years old. Hopelessly out-of-date, and extremely insecure. Wouldn't use that, if I were you.....

http://tkhtml.tcl.tk/hv3.html

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The Puppy Forums would be a very good place to obtain help with this:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php


Mike.

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Old 06-12-2018, 07:06 AM   #12
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Recently I have tested the Opera web browser. To my surprise, I discovered that with the VPN option turned on everything loaded faster and using less memory. I believe it may be because the VPN server I connected to is in Europe and the recent regulations passed there mean that many web sites no longer send scripts and extra items to clients that appear to be in Europe. It made a huge difference in load times, and might address the issue here.

If not, to have tried is free.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 08:15 PM   #13
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Thank you for all of your all replies, I appreciate all yours answers, I hope others might find this post useful
 
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On my old laptop I generally use Midori. It's reasonably fast compared with Firefox and it has an add-blocker that's easy to turn on and off — I'm very good and always let this site load its adds, although I have to turn the add-blocker on before logging-out, or that doesn't work!
 
  


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