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etcetera 10-10-2023 09:08 PM

I have a user stalking me on this forum
 
Posting this here as the forum lacks PM functionality. After engaging one mod it still went nowhere. I suppose we will discuss it here then.

There is a user who responds to my EVERY post with condescending remarks usually devoid of much substance which amount to "You should have looked it up" and all permutations of that, usually highlighting my alleged delinquency or irresponsibility or errors in some way. The user, not surprisingly with a high post count is not playing with a full deck when it comes to respectful social online interaction using his higher reputation number and post count as a shield.

It's basically harassing and I am officially requesting for this to stop as the participation in the community is becoming increasingly difficult. I've engaged the ignore feature but it still shows all users who reply to a particular thread so it's not of much help.
If you can make that disappear that would certainly help.

There is another even simpler solution, if I can put you on ignore, you can put me on ignore so the problem stays solved. Respectfully yours.


P.S. If you can't fix / resolve it, just delete my account and I will find a new home elsewhere. Maybe 20 years here is enough.

shortarcflyer 10-10-2023 09:29 PM

Maybe contact another moderator for assistance. If that gets you no where, contact an administrator and if that goes no where, contact the owner/s of the forum. Be sure to name names of those you previously contacted and gave no help or assistance in the matter.

frankbell 10-10-2023 09:35 PM

Have you tried using the "Report" button to report the offending posts to a mod?

scasey 10-10-2023 10:56 PM

AFAIK LQ does have PM functionality, tho there are some limitations, as I recall.
To contact “the powers that be,” use the Contact Us link found at the bottom of every page.

Another option: putting a user on your ignore list (see the Edit Options link) suppresses the display of that user’s posts for you. You can see that they posted, but what they posted is hidden. I find it quite useful for preventing me from becoming irritated by what “those idiots” say. I do run the risk of missing useful information, should such actually happen, but it’s my choice.

I’ll note that the moderators, like everyone else here, are volunteers.

Edit: Oh. I see in another thread that you’re already using the ignore list. “…the risk of missing useful information…”. Note that one can choose to view an ignored post if that’s a concern.

hazel 10-11-2023 12:49 AM

I can guess who this refers to! The person concerned is very knowledgeable about Linux, which is why they have acquired a high reputation on the forum, but also with a rather testy manner. In most cases where someone has been put down, it was because they did not simply carry out the suggested diagnostic operations and report the results, which would have made it easier for other people to help them.

pan64 10-11-2023 01:49 AM

I can imagine that that person is right. I understand you don't like the answer, but that does not mean the answer is incorrect.

For example you asked:
Quote:

Question, how do I download the entire repo I may need to do current updates?
And the answer was:
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Again, if you bothered to do ANY research, like putting "how to create a local repository for ubuntu" into any search engine:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1703...apt-repository
LQ is not a search engine, and if you check the rules you can find the following:
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Before posting, have you used the search function to ensure your question hasn't been asked before?
From this point of view: you were asked to do a basic research to find the answer yourself instead of waiting for others to do the job for you. Additionally that will be much faster (do not need to wait for others). You also got two links, so the answer is there, you just need to read that.


You can also find these links: How to ask technical questions to get quality answers (see the first part, research) - or this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-...html#beprecise

_blackhole_ 10-11-2023 07:10 AM

You're not being "stalked" - you've simply asked a few ill researched questions and have gotten a few sharp responses. Now you seem to be making so much drama of it. Your obvious solution was to use the ignore list - so you used the ignore list, then you used "click here..." to view the posts anyway and made and uploaded screenshots - and asked them to ignore you. They refused to play it your way, so you made this thread. Seems like a lot of unnecessary drama about nothing at all.

dugan 10-11-2023 09:20 AM

What the user said to you was correct, and you should have been mature enough to take his advice.

If you want to continue on this path, then keep in mind that we have a lot of regulars and they all have memories.

rtmistler 10-11-2023 02:12 PM

Yes this is a temperance lecture, as a fellow LQ member, no official moderator intentions.

A perspective I try to explain to people:
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Your ignore list is within your mind and attention, not some piece of technology you need to rely on
This is all not about another user's behavior, instead it is about how you let this bother you.

The internet is not new, online forums are not new, you've been on LQ for nearly 20 years, odds are that you've experienced things like StackExchange or the old BBS's. My point is people can be jerks online and a lot of times it's borderline where a person offers help but may do so with admonishments or worse. Or you may not understand their offering of help and feel it is a putdown, or finally you really may have asked a poor question. The first thing/feeling I learned years ago was that I didn't want to ask an obvious klinker, in fact you'd get taught that on many forums. So I made sure I prepared my question with good background. That led to me asking very few real questions, because I asked them to myself, looked up possible information to support it, and found that many of my questions became self answered in advance.

Still it is very possible people will have questions and that's fine.

I feel there may be benefit to viewing all advice and then making your own judgment whether or not you feel it helps you to move ahead on your problem. And if you find a reply where you feel it is worthless, then don't let it bother you, just move on.

hazel 10-12-2023 05:50 AM

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...hazel-1029471/

dugan 10-12-2023 03:42 PM

TIL you can put yourself on ignore

etcetera 11-09-2023 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtmistler (Post 6458266)
Yes this is a temperance lecture, as a fellow LQ member, no official moderator intentions.

A perspective I try to explain to people:This is all not about another user's behavior, instead it is about how you let this bother you.

The internet is not new, online forums are not new, you've been on LQ for nearly 20 years, odds are that you've experienced things like StackExchange or the old BBS's. My point is people can be jerks online and a lot of times it's borderline where a person offers help but may do so with admonishments or worse. Or you may not understand their offering of help and feel it is a putdown, or finally you really may have asked a poor question. The first thing/feeling I learned years ago was that I didn't want to ask an obvious klinker, in fact you'd get taught that on many forums. So I made sure I prepared my question with good background. That led to me asking very few real questions, because I asked them to myself, looked up possible information to support it, and found that many of my questions became self answered in advance.

Still it is very possible people will have questions and that's fine.

I feel there may be benefit to viewing all advice and then making your own judgment whether or not you feel it helps you to move ahead on your problem. And if you find a reply where you feel it is worthless, then don't let it bother you, just move on.



Interesting point you make

I have been in IT for a long time, actually I touched my first Unix box exactly 30 years ago, when DEC was still kind of big, scary how time flies. Then I did HP and Solaris for the longest time. I did not want to, but contracts just kept coming up.
When you do sysadmin professionally, get bitten by every conceivable type of crocodile.
I get irritated when some Linux Larva like TBone try to educate me who weren't even born yet (or so it seems) when I was already recompiling kernels on the "real thing" and writing assembler code and separate compilation and much other stuff. I did Unix for about 20 years, Linux for considerably less, probably 5-7 in sum. A lot of sysadmins had to transition from the "real" Unix to the cheaper "aftermarket" replacement, sigh.
What I learned, is that IT is fundamentally about people, processes, not command-line interface and options.

From what I have seen in the IT industry, having an Asperger personality disorder which manifests itself here at times actually immensely helps with the career, because perfectly normal people can't really deal with the workload and the tediousness of it. You cant' be normal and still grok this stuff. So, not a huge surprise.
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"Weird Al" Yankovic - White & Nerdy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw

pan64 11-10-2023 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etcetera (Post 6463935)
Interesting point you make

I have been in IT for a long time, actually I touched my first Unix box exactly 30 years ago, when DEC was still kind of big, scary how time flies. Then I did HP and Solaris for the longest time. I did not want to, but contracts just kept coming up.
When you do sysadmin professionally, get bitten by every conceivable type of crocodile.
I get irritated when some Linux Larva like TBone try to educate me who weren't even born yet (or so it seems) when I was already recompiling kernels on the "real thing" and writing assembler code and separate compilation and much other stuff. I did Unix for about 20 years, Linux for considerably less, probably 5-7 in sum. A lot of sysadmins had to transition from the "real" Unix to the cheaper "aftermarket" replacement, sigh.
What I learned, is that IT is fundamentally about people, processes, not command-line interface and options.

From what I have seen in the IT industry, having an Asperger personality disorder which manifests itself here at times actually immensely helps with the career, because perfectly normal people can't really deal with the workload and the tediousness of it. You cant' be normal and still grok this stuff. So, not a huge surprise.
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"Weird Al" Yankovic - White & Nerdy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw

I don't care how much experience you (or anyone else) has with hp or anything else. It's not important at all. What really matters is how you (or anyone else) communicate and use this forum. TBone doesn't teach about kernel compilation, but teaches about participating in such a forum.

TB0ne 11-10-2023 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etcetera (Post 6463935)
Interesting point you make

I have been in IT for a long time, actually I touched my first Unix box exactly 30 years ago, when DEC was still kind of big, scary how time flies. Then I did HP and Solaris for the longest time. I did not want to, but contracts just kept coming up. When you do sysadmin professionally, get bitten by every conceivable type of crocodile.
I get irritated when some Linux Larva like TBone try to educate me who weren't even born yet (or so it seems) when I was already recompiling kernels on the "real thing" and writing assembler code and separate compilation and much other stuff. I did Unix for about 20 years, Linux for considerably less, probably 5-7 in sum. A lot of sysadmins had to transition from the "real" Unix to the cheaper "aftermarket" replacement, sigh. What I learned, is that IT is fundamentally about people, processes, not command-line interface and options.

From what I have seen in the IT industry, having an Asperger personality disorder which manifests itself here at times actually immensely helps with the career, because perfectly normal people can't really deal with the workload and the tediousness of it. You cant' be normal and still grok this stuff. So, not a huge surprise.
I got to find a better way to manage the smart and aspie retard children, LOL.

Good for you...and I've been working with *nix even longer than 30 years. And if you've got so much experience, it's hard to understand why you never apply any of it, based on what you post. Nor is it easy to understand why you can't be bothered to even ATTEMPT to do research of your own.

A 'Linux Larva'?? You mean someone such as yourself, who can't seem to understand that Oracle Linux is *NOT* based on Fedora, but RHEL? Despite being told this many times, did you try looking this up??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Linux
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6442099

Some other examples:
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...10-4175730571/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...-a-4175729758/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...to-4175729200/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ia-4175726951/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...de-4175729493/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...to-4175729216/

Rather than whining about how people aren't 'nice' to you, why don't you try doing some of these things yourself??? Why do you ask us to look things up for you (FIPS? ATO? Offline repositories?)? You seem to just want to put your hand out...and if you want to call someone names, I certainly think the labels you throw out apply in your case.

etcetera 11-10-2023 09:20 AM

Admins

next time you decide to assign me an infraction, just go ahead and skip intermediate measures and delete my entire account. I would do it myself if I could figure out how to.

Since you can't self-evidently deal with the above person stalking my posts and generating unwanted dialog with captive audience.

Respectfully yours,


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