I have a user stalking me on this forum
 

Posting this here as the forum lacks PM functionality. After engaging one mod it still went nowhere. I suppose we will discuss it here then.

There is a user who responds to my EVERY post with condescending remarks usually devoid of much substance which amount to "You should have looked it up" and all permutations of that, usually highlighting my alleged delinquency or irresponsibility or errors in some way. The user, not surprisingly with a high post count is not playing with a full deck when it comes to respectful social online interaction using his higher reputation number and post count as a shield.

It's basically harassing and I am officially requesting for this to stop as the participation in the community is becoming increasingly difficult. I've engaged the ignore feature but it still shows all users who reply to a particular thread so it's not of much help.
If you can make that disappear that would certainly help.

There is another even simpler solution, if I can put you on ignore, you can put me on ignore so the problem stays solved. Respectfully yours.


P.S. If you can't fix / resolve it, just delete my account and I will find a new home elsewhere. Maybe 20 years here is enough.

Maybe contact another moderator for assistance. If that gets you no where, contact an administrator and if that goes no where, contact the owner/s of the forum. Be sure to name names of those you previously contacted and gave no help or assistance in the matter.

Have you tried using the "Report" button to report the offending posts to a mod?

AFAIK LQ does have PM functionality, tho there are some limitations, as I recall.
To contact “the powers that be,” use the Contact Us link found at the bottom of every page.

Another option: putting a user on your ignore list (see the Edit Options link) suppresses the display of that user’s posts for you. You can see that they posted, but what they posted is hidden. I find it quite useful for preventing me from becoming irritated by what “those idiots” say. I do run the risk of missing useful information, should such actually happen, but it’s my choice.

I’ll note that the moderators, like everyone else here, are volunteers.

Edit: Oh. I see in another thread that you’re already using the ignore list. “…the risk of missing useful information…”. Note that one can choose to view an ignored post if that’s a concern.

I can guess who this refers to! The person concerned is very knowledgeable about Linux, which is why they have acquired a high reputation on the forum, but also with a rather testy manner. In most cases where someone has been put down, it was because they did not simply carry out the suggested diagnostic operations and report the results, which would have made it easier for other people to help them.

I can imagine that that person is right. I understand you don't like the answer, but that does not mean the answer is incorrect.

For example you asked: And the answer was: LQ is not a search engine, and if you check the rules you can find the following: From this point of view: you were asked to do a basic research to find the answer yourself instead of waiting for others to do the job for you. Additionally that will be much faster (do not need to wait for others). You also got two links, so the answer is there, you just need to read that.


You can also find these links: How to ask technical questions to get quality answers (see the first part, research) - or this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-...html#beprecise

You're not being "stalked" - you've simply asked a few ill researched questions and have gotten a few sharp responses. Now you seem to be making so much drama of it. Your obvious solution was to use the ignore list - so you used the ignore list, then you used "click here..." to view the posts anyway and made and uploaded screenshots - and asked them to ignore you. They refused to play it your way, so you made this thread. Seems like a lot of unnecessary drama about nothing at all.

What the user said to you was correct, and you should have been mature enough to take his advice.

If you want to continue on this path, then keep in mind that we have a lot of regulars and they all have memories.

Yes this is a temperance lecture, as a fellow LQ member, no official moderator intentions.

A perspective I try to explain to people:This is all not about another user's behavior, instead it is about how you let this bother you.

The internet is not new, online forums are not new, you've been on LQ for nearly 20 years, odds are that you've experienced things like StackExchange or the old BBS's. My point is people can be jerks online and a lot of times it's borderline where a person offers help but may do so with admonishments or worse. Or you may not understand their offering of help and feel it is a putdown, or finally you really may have asked a poor question. The first thing/feeling I learned years ago was that I didn't want to ask an obvious klinker, in fact you'd get taught that on many forums. So I made sure I prepared my question with good background. That led to me asking very few real questions, because I asked them to myself, looked up possible information to support it, and found that many of my questions became self answered in advance.

Still it is very possible people will have questions and that's fine.

I feel there may be benefit to viewing all advice and then making your own judgment whether or not you feel it helps you to move ahead on your problem. And if you find a reply where you feel it is worthless, then don't let it bother you, just move on.

TIL you can put yourself on ignore

Interesting point you make

I have been in IT for a long time, actually I touched my first Unix box exactly 30 years ago, when DEC was still kind of big, scary how time flies. Then I did HP and Solaris for the longest time. I did not want to, but contracts just kept coming up.
When you do sysadmin professionally, get bitten by every conceivable type of crocodile.
I get irritated when some Linux Larva like TBone try to educate me who weren't even born yet (or so it seems) when I was already recompiling kernels on the "real thing" and writing assembler code and separate compilation and much other stuff. I did Unix for about 20 years, Linux for considerably less, probably 5-7 in sum. A lot of sysadmins had to transition from the "real" Unix to the cheaper "aftermarket" replacement, sigh.
What I learned, is that IT is fundamentally about people, processes, not command-line interface and options.

From what I have seen in the IT industry, having an Asperger personality disorder which manifests itself here at times actually immensely helps with the career, because perfectly normal people can't really deal with the workload and the tediousness of it. You cant' be normal and still grok this stuff. So, not a huge surprise.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw

I don't care how much experience you (or anyone else) has with hp or anything else. It's not important at all. What really matters is how you (or anyone else) communicate and use this forum. TBone doesn't teach about kernel compilation, but teaches about participating in such a forum.

Good for you...and I've been working with *nix even longer than 30 years. And if you've got so much experience, it's hard to understand why you never apply any of it, based on what you post. Nor is it easy to understand why you can't be bothered to even ATTEMPT to do research of your own.

A 'Linux Larva'?? You mean someone such as yourself, who can't seem to understand that Oracle Linux is *NOT* based on Fedora, but RHEL? Despite being told this many times, did you try looking this up??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Linux
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6442099

Some other examples:
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...10-4175730571/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...-a-4175729758/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...to-4175729200/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ia-4175726951/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...de-4175729493/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...to-4175729216/

Rather than whining about how people aren't 'nice' to you, why don't you try doing some of these things yourself??? Why do you ask us to look things up for you (FIPS? ATO? Offline repositories?)? You seem to just want to put your hand out...and if you want to call someone names, I certainly think the labels you throw out apply in your case.

Admins

next time you decide to assign me an infraction, just go ahead and skip intermediate measures and delete my entire account. I would do it myself if I could figure out how to.

Since you can't self-evidently deal with the above person stalking my posts and generating unwanted dialog with captive audience.

Respectfully yours,

Instructions are in the LQ Site FAQ.

Alternatively, simply logout and don't log back in.

I would point out it wasn't one of the mods or admins that gave you an infraction for this behaviour. It was the OWNER OF THE SITE. Maybe instead of complaining you could use this a learning moment, and do a little self-reflection to try to grow as a person?

Okay boomer.

I mean, sheesh, the sense of entitlement is palpable.

I tried to reach the owner of the site weeks ago regarding the aforementioned behavior, wasn't sure how to message him.
The only way to get attention was by posting here instead of more common sense PMs. So I did. We have PM functionality disabled. Now it's a moot point.
Since apparently there won't be a satisfactory resolution to this predicament I articulated even after escalation here. Since I can't use the site without being stalked and harassed in response to _every_ _single_ _article_ I post with a condescending and criticizing attitude from a single determined member, sanctioned apparently by the admins, which I find that unpalatable as a big picture. I tried to communicate my frustration, tried to identify other forms of engagement without mutual aggravation, it didn't register and no resolution was identified. It's a community of people, not perfect robots. Yet I am expected to perform like a automaton, caught in a "Seinfeld's Soup Nazi" episode lest I get a regular diet of acid liquid thrown at me in every response. God forbid some of the posts are somewhat redundant (as my understanding of the problem is more and more refined). A prime offense for sure. My vision is increasingly not aligned with the above processes. All this puts me in a position where the only possible resolution that I can identify at this point is to find another community I can help to grow, contribute to and learn within, not reward such delinquent behavior here with my responses and gather "infractions" if I decide to voice my legitimate frustration. I find that attitude especially alienating as an established, long-term member with a long professional experience in the field, not someone who came on board yesterday to troll here or seek conflict. It has been 20 years here and apparently 20 years is enough to seek greener pastures at this point. I tried and tried. Thank you for hosting me.
November 24th, 2023 - that's my resignation date. I am giving a 2 week notice, please delete my account and all my posts on 11/24/23. Respectfully yours.

So you did everything but take the advice and feedback you were given, and now you're not happy with the results of your decisions, your attitude and your behavior? Are you familiar with the phrase “personal responsibility”?

And btw...

Someone who was here for twenty years should obviously know that this would never be done.

I'd let him go, urge him even.

I've received some fairly harsh replies here too, but usually I deserved them. I can only narrow my suspicions to two posters who might be getting under his skin. It's just as well he didn't join for the BSD forums! Some straight talking is done there.

Why wait 2 weeks? Why not just go now if you are that unhappy here? I am just curious as to why the delay to leave?

And you'd probably be right...it's TB0ne. And under every circumstance that he's complained about, everything TB0ne mentioned was accurate. OP never tried to do any of their own research (or at least didn't appear to from what they posted), didn't like the fact that the answers given weren't what they wanted, and wasn't willing (from what they posted) to put any of their own time into finding an alternative answer. So despite that I think TB0ne often goes a bit overboard, in this particular case, he was completely in the right with his posts.

To clarify for other users; you look at Jeremy's profile...click "Contact Info"->"Send Private Message". Or look at any of the easily-found "Contact Us" links at the bottom of EVERY PAGE.
Nope...PM's work fine, if members choose to get them.
Sorry, no...you didn't and your posting history is VERY evident of that, and the melodrama and hand-wringing is especially entertaining. You don't help a community 'grow' by constantly asking for handouts. If you have a "long professional experience in the field", why is it an alien concept to attempt to do research of your own?? Why does that make you an 'automaton'???
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ia-4175726951/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...to-4175729216/

And this typifies your behavior:
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...6/#post5958589
As others have said, you can leave now...why bother with a 'two week notice'??? Just go if you're going. And AGAIN, did you bother to read anything about LQ?? The rules? Guidelines?? Anything??? Like the parts about not deleting accounts and posts??? This goes hand-in-hand with you not doing much/any research on your own.

RANT ahead.

Ignore is best currently. Ignore by settings or just ignore posts.

Not to be too woke but every member needs to feel like LQ is a friendly place to go for help and support. This should be the standard that every person does by default you'd think. Can't get more simple than that.

As a mod I don't have full control over many things. If I did I'd make sure that replies are polite and technical. I'd ask folks to ignore replying to threads just to harass other members. There are so many people that could use technical support that I find it odd that a few members seem to be picked on.

Having technical skill is only part of what makes a good reply on a thread.

Hey, it's the real world. D*^ks and Jerks online and in real person. Be a good person inside, be kind to others.

The Contact Us link at the bottom of any LQ page.

Anyways, seems like you reached them.

Yes, it is a community of people, not perfect robots. And you are expected to perform according to the rules of this group, that's all. I think every community has rules, including anthills and drug cartels (for example).
I understand that you are frustrated because you were faced with ignoring said rules (several times). It is your choice whether to join and accept the rules or not. See rules: By becoming a member you agreed to adhere to these guidelines.
Adhering to the guidelines (becoming a member) and refusing the rules in the same time is not a legitimate option, but a prime offense.
So if you wish help to grow, contribute to and learn within you are very welcome. Do not criticize other members, but discuss their posts. See rule: Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated.
Regarding your account: see here (remember, you agreed)

It is still your own decision to remain a member or not.