Confusion on what is and what is not a "text speak garbage"
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It's clear abbreviations are a part of "LQ-speek" but texting and IM language definitely are not.
I knew that and that's were the problem arose. "IMO" is an abbreviation of "In my opinion" and "pls" is NOT an abbreviation for "please", and this is what I used to think, til I found these:
Now, in the linked thread (in OP), a person named "szboardstretcher", pointed me to a dictionary which claims pls is an abbreviation for PLEASE. And all this happened in that newbie's thread, what do you think that newbie is going to derive from this?
I couldn't find any citations which could differentiate between the text-speak and the abbreviations.
Plz Hlp, URGENT!
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I knew that and that's were the problem arose. "IMO" is an abbreviation of "In my opinion" and "pls" is NOT an abbreviation for "please", and this is what I used to think, til I found these: (..) Now, in the linked thread (in OP), a person named "szboardstretcher", pointed me to a dictionary which claims pls is an abbreviation for PLEASE.
The basis of it all, and I tried to point that out by referring to http://www.albion.com/netiquette/, is that LQ is home to members from all ages and all around the globe. We need to understand each other well enough to be able to communicate and solve problems and to ensure that Jeremy decided on using the English language. Those who join must adapt, not the other way around. Of course there's several problems to start with like language barriers, members not lurking before posting, not being aware of netiquette and not reading the LQ Rules. Then there's a small group of one day flies that just don't care anyway. Without intention to be or become part of the LQ community they just leech answers and let their account die(). Either way, community-oriented, mature and worldly-wise as we are we should not need a dictionary for deciphering text and we certainly shouldn't need to nit over it.
Regardless of it all the overriding rule IMHO is related to our purpose: any unique question that gets answered strengthens LQ as the knowledge base we aim to be.
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Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul
And all this happened in that newbie's thread, what do you think that newbie is going to derive from this?
While this shouldn't turn out to be an opportunity to play the blame game in this particular case one member responded in a way that is unfortunate. The member following up that post should not have needed to do so as it provided an opportunity to derail the thread. If somebody repeatedly fails or refuses to acclimatize and peer moderation no longer works there's moderators who can and will take care of it.
Just use the report button.
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Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul
I couldn't find any citations which could differentiate between the text-speak and the abbreviations.
TLA's, FLA's, other acronyms, abbreviations and chat language one encounters at LQ are often used often, elsewhere and listed in the Catb Jargon file, FOLDOC, IRC or other commonly known abbreviation sources. In ye aulde leetspeek ppl often used abbrevs like "plz" and anyone familiar with that, and the context in which things have been written, should be able to recognize it as "please". What distinguishes proper from improper use of acronyms is use of caps. For instance you'll find me using IIGC (http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...2450/2006/4/5/, http://www.acronymfinder.com/Slang/IIGC.html) at times whereas "iigc" results in just meaningless garbage. And what apart from caps distinguishes .*speek from texting is origin: texting is supposed to be efficient in situations where both sides are accustomed to using it and sending a message is "expensive".
Not a hard and fast rule but if at first glance text looks like the effect of cerebral palsy* then it's probably not what we would want.
* Anyone viewing my comparison as an opportunity to claim I'm showing disrespect for actual victims of CP: think twice.
"When in Rome, do as the Romans do" has been good advice since AD 387, is re-stated in Netiquette Rule 3 and could here be "When in LQ, do as the LQers do".
It's pragmatic and courteous communication, using language that is likely to be understood by the intended readership.
tl;dr
EDIT: just for the lulz, how about posting in the wilder chans in LQ-speak?
Apologies to all senior members, moderators, 5k club members and other members posting serious discussion in this thread, because this post is not serious at all, it's intended to be humourous. I hope I'm not breaking LQ rules, and I don't want to be disrespecful to anybody. But...
I use the wtf command all the time.
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Originally Posted by unSpawn
WTF?
Seriously! It's part of bsd-games-2.13 in my Slackware box.
Code:
$ wtf is IMHO
IMHO: in my humble opinion
Or,
Code:
$ wtf is IIRC
IIRC: if I recall correctly
Sometimes is not very smart:
Code:
$ wtf is pls
Gee... I don't know what pls means...
And sometimes it is:
Code:
$ wtf is man
man: man [] (1) - format and display the on-line manual pages
man [] (7) - macros to format man pages
man [] (7) - pages - conventions for writing Linux man pages
So that's it. Please don't kill me.
PS: If I've offended someone or broken LQ rules, moderators please go ahead and remove this silly post.
Personally, the only internet abbreviations/acronyms I tend to use are those that you'll find on plenty of forums/message boards, e.g. IMO, IIRC, AFAIK, etc. The occasional LOL slips in, too.
I get annoyed with text-speak, too, though; it gets annoying when ppl tlk like dis as if dey dont hav time 2 type out thr wrds.
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