Civility in tech discussions - or is Blankety Blank Distro dead in the modern era?
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...yet you somehow didn't know anything about this forum?
If anyone here had any doubts about whether jsbjsb002 is nothing but a troll account... it's hard to see how any doubt would still remain. It really is...
There is no "official" Debian forum. There were a couple of Debian user forums, but they were no more official than this site. Debian User Forums is the only one left, AFAIK, and people often show up thinking that they can contact the Debian administration there. It's just another internet forum, with no affiliation at all with the Debian project. But yes, there are some there who are excessively rude. Just as there are on any internet forum. Civil discourse is mostly gone from the internet, and society in general. Witness Twitter et al. IMO this forum has gone that way less than most.
It depends on the moderators, doesn't it. It's a fine balance, allowing free speech but ensuring that people keep to the point and the whole thing doesn't just degenerate into a flamewar. On the whole I think our mods do a fine job.
One way to find out if Slackware's dead, if the question is sincere and not trolling: check the Changelogs on the website, if they show updates dated 2020-2021, then it's alive.
If anyone here had any doubts about whether jsbjsb002 is nothing but a troll account... it's hard to see how any doubt would still remain. It really is...
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Originally Posted by dugan
What's going on?
While I would have thought it was obvious; some very sick individual has setup a troll account to troll me.
If you're suggesting that I'm trolling myself; that's completely ridiculous in the extreme, and quite frankly, offensive. And in that case, I would have thought you were smarter than that. As I'd think it would be easy for Jeremy to check if two accounts are posting from the same IP, and therefore if it's the same person behind both accounts. Jeremy knows as well as I do that I contacted him about the same troll account as soon as it made it's first post here. In any case, there is no reason for me to have more than one account here. I certainly wouldn't be making any deal of it if the troll account called jsbjsb002 was one that I'd setup. Why would I? Come on dugan.
But and FWIW, I will say that I find it absolutely baffling as to why Jeremy hasn't deleted the same troll account, and if he comes to his senses, he would do just that.
PS: FWIW, I find it very difficult to believe that PV would setup troll accounts to troll the Slackware forum, and really don't know how you come to such a conclusion.
Last edited by jsbjsb001; 01-03-2021 at 08:45 AM.
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Please simmer down, jsb. Dugan has probably been out of the loop during the holidays and is not up to date with the situation. And no one, as far as I can see, has suggested that you are trolling yourself. Jeremy seems to have decided to give this person, whoever they are, the benefit of the doubt; that is his decision to make and I think it is a bit OTT to suggest that he should "come to his senses".
@dugan: if you look in the newbie introductions, you will see how this started. Someone has pinched jsb's name (as an act of hommage, he says!!) and jsb is understandably furious about it.
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While I appreciate your comments Hazel; it's not just the same username bar the last character, or their posting signature that makes me believe it's just a troll account, it's much more than just that. And more I think about, the more suspect I get about it/them.
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If a website, or distro, isn't updated at least every year, then it is no wonder that a newbie would think that the distro might be dead, & therefore not worth investigating.
Even if it was a 'troll post', you shouldn't allow yourself to be drawn in, just ignore it, if that is what you think, otherwise you are giving exactly what a troll wants.
There is a problem with some Slackware users though, just because this website has been given the OK by their 'leader', it doesn't make it their forum!
This is a general Linux forum, & we all think that the distro we use is the best, & of course it is, for ourselves.
Yes, don't answer posts that you're not prepared to help with.
If a website, or distro, isn't updated at least every year, then it is no wonder that a newbie would think that the distro might be dead, & therefore not worth investigating.
Taurine excrement. What? No variety? Regular, scheduled releases, whether they're fit for purpose or not? A newbie could be excused from that sort of thinking, but not someone with your experience.
For the record, I've suspected, for some time now, that some of the trolls on the Slackware forum were Pat himself.
dugan, that's an extraordinary statement to make about anybody, much less the prominent* leader of a project. Is there something specific you can point to that indicates this, or is it just your Spidey sense tingling?
Maybe you've caught onto something the rest of us haven't, or maybe your intuition needs recalibrating.
Weighing what I know about Pat (not much) vs what I know about you (less - your posts on LQ and on your website), I'm going with "I'm not seeing it" unless I see something solid.
* "prominent" being situational - in the Linux world, I'd consider Pat prominent; in my workplace and social circles, if you asked people about Linux, you would get a blank stare or a response along the lines of "What's a Linux?".
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