What programs would you like to see ported to Linux?

hydrurga · 01-20-2017, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Crippled

Thanks, but that list is out of date. There is no Sophos Anti-Virus for personal Linux desktop. Comodo doesn't work on Debian based distros because Comodo wants you to use an older version of SSL with all it's security vulnerabilities. In the Wiki it's out of date where there is nothing for Linux, but I will keep looking. Thanks anyway.

I run Sophos Anti-virus on my personal desktop machine (https://www.sophos.com/en-us/product...for-linux.aspx). It works fine. There are detailed instructions on the site as to how to set it up but it's pretty easy. If you have any problems doing so, create a thread here.

Crippled · 01-20-2017, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hydrurga

I run Sophos Anti-virus on my personal desktop machine (https://www.sophos.com/en-us/product...for-linux.aspx). It works fine. There are detailed instructions on the site as to how to set it up but it's pretty easy. If you have any problems doing so, create a thread here.

Thanks. I downloaded it and went to install it and it wouldn't install. Looks like I will stick with ClamTK. Why can't all Linux developers make things easy like the MX Linux developers?

hydrurga · 01-20-2017, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Crippled

Thanks. I downloaded it and went to install it and it wouldn't install. Looks like I will stick with ClamTK. Why can't all Linux developers make things easy like the MX Linux developers?

From my notes:

Extract sav-linux-free-9.tgz as sophos-av in ~, and navigate there.

sudo ./install.sh - accept all defaults exc. on-access scanning: no + Free version (f).

That's it.

After it's installed:

sudo /opt/sophos-av/bin/savupdate - update

sudo savscan / -archive -b -c --backtrack-protection --preserve-backtrack --examine-x-bit - recursively scan computer inc. archives and Unix-defined executables, but don't scan the same thing twice if follows symlink. Confirm deletion/disinfection (-c), and sound bell (-b) if threat detected.

jamison20000e · 01-20-2017, 02:49 PM

Sounds ironic:

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Originally Posted by Crippled

Why can't all Linux developers make things easy ... MX Linux developers?

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Originally Posted by Crippled

... I downloaded it and went to install it and it wouldn't install. ...

Not to knock one but if a Linux app won't install out of the box on your distro how is it that great? In this case is more you and a longtime issue in that GUN\Linux goes in so many directions? Many from base distros by the way...

seems to run fine here:

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root@::/opt/sophos-av/bin# ls
_  savconfig  savdctl  savdstatus  savlog  savscan  savsetup  savupdate
root@::/opt/sophos-av/bin# ./savscan
SAVScan virus detection utility
Version 5.27.0 [Linux/AMD64]
Virus data version 5.30, August 2016
Includes detection for 11781705 viruses, Trojans and worms
Copyright (c) 1989-2016 Sophos Limited. All rights reserved.

System time 02:42:45 PM, System date 20 January 2017

Useful life of Scan has been exceeded

  Usage: savscan [options] <path1> <path2>... <pathN> [include/exclude options]
  where options are listed below.

(For full details of all options, use savscan -h.[*] indicates option is default)

  -sc[*] -f [ ] -di [ ] -s[*] -c[*] -b[*] -all [ ] -rec[*] -remove [ ]
  -dn [ ] -ss [ ] -eec [ ] -ext=<extension>,.. -p=<file> -idedir=<directory>
  -exclude -include -v -vv -h 
  -zip [ ] -gzip [ ] -arj [ ] -cmz [ ] -tar [ ] -rar [ ] -cab [ ] -archive [ ]
  -loopback [ ] -mime [ ] -oe [ ] -tnef [ ] -pua [ ] -suspicious [ ]
  --reset-atime[*] --stop-scan[*] --follow-symlinks[*]
  --stay-on-filesystem [ ] --stay-on-machine[*] --skip-special[*]
  --backtrack-protection[*] --preserve-backtrack[*] --examine-x-bit [ ]
  --cust-extract [ ] --early-sxl [ ] --show-file-details [ ] --quarantine [ ]
  --quarantine:<uid=nnn>,<user=username>,<gid=nnn>,<group=groupname>,<mode=ppp>
  -move=<quarantine directory> [ ] -rename [ ] --args-file=<file>
  -mbr [ ] -bs=X,... [ ] -bs [ ] -cdr=X,...[ ]

...on Debian 9 (stretch\sid)

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				sudo ./install.sh

Crippled · 01-20-2017, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jamison20000e

Sounds ironic:Not to knock one but if a Linux app won't install out of the box on your distro how is it that great? In this case is more you and a longtime issue in that GUN\Linux goes in so many directions? Many from base distros by the way...

seems to run fine here:

Code:

root@::/opt/sophos-av/bin# ls
_  savconfig  savdctl  savdstatus  savlog  savscan  savsetup  savupdate
root@::/opt/sophos-av/bin# ./savscan
SAVScan virus detection utility
Version 5.27.0 [Linux/AMD64]
Virus data version 5.30, August 2016
Includes detection for 11781705 viruses, Trojans and worms
Copyright (c) 1989-2016 Sophos Limited. All rights reserved.

System time 02:42:45 PM, System date 20 January 2017

Useful life of Scan has been exceeded

  Usage: savscan [options] <path1> <path2>... <pathN> [include/exclude options]
  where options are listed below.

(For full details of all options, use savscan -h.[*] indicates option is default)

  -sc[*] -f [ ] -di [ ] -s[*] -c[*] -b[*] -all [ ] -rec[*] -remove [ ]
  -dn [ ] -ss [ ] -eec [ ] -ext=<extension>,.. -p=<file> -idedir=<directory>
  -exclude -include -v -vv -h 
  -zip [ ] -gzip [ ] -arj [ ] -cmz [ ] -tar [ ] -rar [ ] -cab [ ] -archive [ ]
  -loopback [ ] -mime [ ] -oe [ ] -tnef [ ] -pua [ ] -suspicious [ ]
  --reset-atime[*] --stop-scan[*] --follow-symlinks[*]
  --stay-on-filesystem [ ] --stay-on-machine[*] --skip-special[*]
  --backtrack-protection[*] --preserve-backtrack[*] --examine-x-bit [ ]
  --cust-extract [ ] --early-sxl [ ] --show-file-details [ ] --quarantine [ ]
  --quarantine:<uid=nnn>,<user=username>,<gid=nnn>,<group=groupname>,<mode=ppp>
  -move=<quarantine directory> [ ] -rename [ ] --args-file=<file>
  -mbr [ ] -bs=X,... [ ] -bs [ ] -cdr=X,...[ ]

...on Debian 9 (stretch\sid)

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It's not great when an app doesn't install out of the box. Other apps install without issue. When I click install.sh a new window opens with the same text that you have, but when I look for Sophos I see nothing was installed. Am I to copy and paste all that and put it in the terminal?

jamison20000e · 01-20-2017, 07:02 PM

Code:

mam mam

Run that in a terminal first...

You have to open a terminal and be in the directory of install.sh then run su or:

Code:

sudo ./install.sh

Crippled · 01-20-2017, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jamison20000e

Code:

mam mam

Run that in a terminal first...

You have to open a terminal and be in the directory of install.sh then run su or:

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sudo ./install.sh

That explains the problem. I am the worst at using the terminal. I give up. Thank you for trying.

hydrurga · 01-21-2017, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Crippled

That explains the problem. I am the worst at using the terminal. I give up. Thank you for trying.

That's a real shame. Although a lot can be done with the GUI (and I personally prefer using a GUI if I can as opposed to the command line), being averse to the command line means that you will miss out on many of the great strengths of Linux. It will also make it more difficult to troubleshoot, where the command line is usually very useful for analysing and solving problems.

Crippled · 01-21-2017, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by hydrurga

That's a real shame. Although a lot can be done with the GUI (and I personally prefer using a GUI if I can as opposed to the command line), being averse to the command line means that you will miss out on many of the great strengths of Linux. It will also make it more difficult to troubleshoot, where the command line is usually very useful for analysing and solving problems.

I understand and heard it all before. What you call the "many of the great strengths of Linux" is actually the biggest weakness of Linux. The reason is people who use Windows or MAC don't use the command line to install a program or anything else these days. I remember when I used Windows, the last time I had to use the command line was running Windows 2000 back in the year 2000 as per Microsoft's phone support. Here we are in the year 2017 and with Linux we still need to use the command line to do basic tasks? The problem is with all the things I have done in my life my hard drive in my head is full. There is no room left to memories terminal commands. That's why I use MX-16 because I haven't needed to use the CLI except for the Linux glitch of enabling the firewall permanently that doesn't work using the GUI. It's not like I am not willing to use the terminal, I just can't understand it. It reminds me of 1980's computing which I couldn't understand then and I still can't understand it today. It's like I need an Enigma machine and the code book along with the wheels settings to decipher it. P.S. It looks like my paragraphing didn't work.

jamison20000e · 01-21-2017, 07:57 AM

Many distros can do all the average junk* GUI, only but NOT long ago you had to know the command line for it! GNU\Linux loses nothing to weakness, you either miss out or learn...

Crippled · 01-21-2017, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jamison20000e

Many distros can do all the average junk* GUI, only but NOT long ago you had to know the command line for it! GNU\Linux loses nothing to weakness, you either miss out or learn...

It's this attitude what holds back people using MAC or Windows from switching to Linux which explains the low Linux market share of desktop/laptop use which is a clear loss for Linux which is very sad.

jamison20000e · 01-21-2017, 08:21 AM

1 eg: http://www.computerworld.com/article...ith-linux.html

we had to learn to walk and talk now you learn free is not free...

273 · 01-21-2017, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Crippled

It's this attitude what holds back people using MAC or Windows from switching to Linux which explains the low Linux market share of desktop/laptop use which is a clear loss for Linux which is very sad.

It's not a loss for Linux at all -- last time I checked Linux was available in many flavours and many people were using it. If you don't want to use Linux you don't use it. The command line is one of those things that, if you know it, makes Linux a lot easier to use. People who aren't willing to use some basic commands now and again to ensure things run smoothly probably shouldn't be using an OS whose strength is its versatility. I had to use Windows 10 for a while at home because Sid was on one of its "non-work periods" for me and the locked-down nature was really annoying. Similarly, while I know OSX has many of the strengths of Linux the main reason* I've not yet bought a Mac yet is that there's no way to change how the desktop looks -- that's been a deal breaker for me. If you don't like the command line then there's always OSX and there's nothing wrong with that choice but if you want versatility and customisation then you have to live with the fact that things will break and you will have to get your hands dirty.

*I do have "political" reasons for not wanting to pay Apple also but I buy DVDs so I can't claim to be innocent of paying cartels.

Garthhh · 01-21-2017, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Crippled

It's this attitude what holds back people using MAC or Windows from switching to Linux which explains the low Linux market share of desktop/laptop use which is a clear loss for Linux which is very sad.

you don't have to memorize terminal commands copy n paste is your friend,
with any OS some fussing around may be required to get some programs working, certainly not unique to linux

mx looks interesting debian based, community developed, that's not downstream of ubuntu
virtual machine here I come

you should rethink your signature, which will not make the smart people who can help you feel helpful...

did you try to resolve your problem through the mx16 forum?

you might try a more user friendly distro which has some security features built in
https://www.mageia.org/en/5/

pintooo15 · 01-21-2017, 04:23 PM

No one likes typing commands all the time. But command line is the easiest form to automate. Trust your fingers to memorize more shortcuts before your eye-hand coordination could get the mouse pointer to half of them represented visually. I miss every single shortcut I use to repeat already used commands when using the cmd.
Two important things though: learning comes with interest. Second, be cautious of the source you are pasting command from. If you can have a vm, best way to try out. At least that's how I tried arem mynus aref slesh (I don't want to write the right spelling and get people in trouble)
p.s. This topic seems to have gone off the tracks. I'm simply running along