I know what you mean, but it's so much work and requires research into doing it. And it's basically people with my lazy mentality and lack of patience that causes us to use Windows since they have simplified everything. Now I feel like I take installing applications for granted.

Anyhow, I'll give MPlayer another shot. But you do realize that after this, I will probably be posting another 10+ threads regarding on how to install MPlayer cause I don't know jack.

Then if I can get that working, I'll try to tackle this ATI Radeon driver problem.

Hmm. Maybe you should just get Debian then and run an 'apt-get install mplayer' after you added the apt source for an unofficial mplayer package. Then it's even easier than using Windows because you don't even need to download anything manually. And don't tell me now you were using WMP in Windows. Debian is considered a bit harder to install and setup though but once it's done it's very easy to install/uninstall apps and the system stays clean even if you install and uninstall frequently. You could also take a look at the nearly foolproof Knoppix distro. It's a liveCD which you just pop into your drive and boot into a fully working system. No fully accelerated Radeon drivers as far as I know though but it looks good and autodetected all my hardware. Once the harddrive installer is fixed it will be a killer (if it's not done already). BTW: I use MPlayer in Windows too. It's even harder to get it running there and forget about a working GUI and support for all codecs the Linux-version can use.

PS: If you want to try MPlayer for Windows get it at http://mplayer.sunset-utopia.homeip.net/

Thank you for the suggestion. However, I put so much effort and time into Mandrake that I don't want start learning something new. I think I can keep up the fight!

hello,

I'm a big time newbie and I've read the previous posts and followed a couple instructions and I have gotten the driver to install correctly but still cannot get 3D acceleration. When I run glxgears, I get about 300 frames/sec, but some people have said that I should be getting much higher. When graphics intensive screen savers come up, I see lots of lag. I currently have the ATI radeon 9800 and from the previous posts I can see that it will be a pain to get the card working correctly but I really do want to try.

I am running RH 9.0 and I got the card to display through DVI at 1280x1024 @ 24bit. It just seems as though I am having trouble with the 3D acceleration part. If there are any suggestions, that would be great. Thank you.

-Joonix214

As I figured out so far, I've got a problem with my mainboard (VIA A7V8X, KT400, AGP 8x) - I can't install the drivers properly because AGP 8x isn't supported yet. So I choose this solution:

I have 3D acceleration enabled, but with glxgears I do get some 240 FPS.
I don't think this helps you, I havn't run any 3D application yet (how do I find out if my card is working fine? chrome (a game), that comes along with kde doesn't work, because I do have a lot of "dropping" frames, but I could play it smoothly with a radeon8500 card...

re: mplayer.. the vlc player aint too bad either..

BlinkEye - i have the same board as you and i got it to work with a agpgart patch specific for kt400, radeons, and agp8x boards.. uhh.. i'd have to find the link to the patch.. let me know if you want it.. flgxinfo should tell you if you have a real 3d renderer going..

I'd really appreciate that link, I've searched for it and have not found it yet (only hints about this problem).

my glxinfo gives this out:

bash-2.05b$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float,
GLX_ATI_render_texture
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 4.0.4
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add,
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color,
GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav
id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0x23 24 tc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None
0x24 24 tc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 1 0 None
0x25 24 tc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
0x26 24 tc 1 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
0x27 24 dc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None
0x28 24 dc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 1 0 None
0x29 24 dc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
0x2a 24 dc 1 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None

I'd need that to be translated, thanks

but maybe you're link covers my questions up - I do see, that I do not have direct rendering enabled. I hope the installation procedure isn't that complicated...
so far it has been a pain in the ass to try to get running this card, luckily there are some people arround who know how to handle such problems

Have you changed in /lib/modules/fglrx/build/agpgart.be.c via_generic_setup to via_kt400_setup? That was my big hang up and after I did that I works fine for me. make sure you aren't outting in via_KT400_setup. I did that and took me a while to figure it out. If you have already done this and it doesn't work I feel for you. It took me a touch under 2 months to get mine working.

I dunno if you talk to me because I haven't found yet any patch for my KT400 mainboard. but as far as I'm concerned there shouldn't no longer be any problem with the new driver from the ati web-page (I was able to install them now properly, although I get a message while rpm-installing the package about not being able to use 3d hardware support).

now my glxinfo looks like this:
[cerberos@XP2200 ati]$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: ATI
client glx version string: 1.3
client glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float,
GLX_ATI_render_texture
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 4.0.4
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add,
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color,
GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav
id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0x23 24 tc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None
0x24 24 tc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 1 0 None
0x25 24 tc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
0x26 24 tc 1 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
0x27 24 dc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None
0x28 24 dc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 1 0 None
0x29 24 dc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
0x2a 24 dc 1 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None

unfortunately there is still no direct rendering enabled and I'm wondering if anything went right because in the installation help posted on the ati page http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/readme0328.txt it says that after running glxinfo you should get and even though I un-installed the conflicting mesa-rpm I still get its name on my fglxinfo.

b.t.w.: the game chromium isn't playable without A LOT of dropping frames, so I guess the new driver installation didn't change anything...

try this. go to your /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod and open agpgart.be.c Do a find and look for 8377 I think. A couple of line below that look for via_generic_setup. You should chang that to via_kt400_setup.
save it.
then in /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod do ./make.sh
cd ..
./make_install.sh
then run fglrxconfig and make sure you select n for external agpgart module(default)
Then restart your Xserver.

That should do it. Let me know.

hmm. my agpgart.be.c is empty. that shoudn't be that way, am I right?

ähm, it isn't no longer - you sure meant agpgart_be.c, I'm currently trying out your way.

well, you solution works well, I do have direct rendering enabled now. I'm still suspicious - glxgears spits out 85 fps (so does
fgl_glxgears), I can see the wheels turning very slowly, shouldn't that be the other way around?

last but not least: chromium is finally working again!

THANKS A LOT so far

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I think I can help you.

Hey,

I have been trying to get the 9800 Pro to work on RH9 system with 2.4.20-20.9. I have all installed ok, although needed to use the force<tm> to get the rpm package to go in, as indicated in the ATI installation notes.

Now, it seems the 3D acceleration is not really kicking into action when I try tuxracer, and the XFree86 log indicates the following:
Also the fglrxinfo gives this:
Did you have to remove the Mesa GLX stuff to get the acceleration working? or is it just that there is not support yet for the 9800 PRO in the drivers?

Thanks

Petri