Mandrake vs. RedHat thread

Nah, just by default, just like RH does GRUB by default. Still there is the option for the other (in both Distros) but I'm just talking about the "default" choice.



Cool

hmmmmmmmmm, , but it doesn't say anything like

Default option: Grub (checked)
Alternate option: Lilo (unchecked)

It simply gives you the option to click on either one you want

ha ha ha, No, it's worse than that. Give me a few, I'll show you the screenshot of what it looks like (makes you really not even know anything else exists, especially if you are a newbie).

Not that Mandy really tells you that anything but LILO exists, but that's the same with most distros.

Anyway, I'll be back in a few with the shot of RH's install for that section.

Cool

http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/l...ootloader.html

Not looking real friendly to me, and in fact doesn't even tell you what else is available unless you click the "mysterious" button

Cool

i've used red hat 7.2 and mandrake 9.0, and MDK 9.0 is definitely better. it's much faster and easier to use. i haven't tried RH 8.0 yet because i hated RH 7.2 so much.

i'm really intrigued by slackware, though. i've got a friend who runs slackware (i dunno what version, but it does have KDE 3), and it runs on his 500MHz AMD K6-2 at a speed comparable to my 1.2GHz Athlon THunderbird running Mandrake 9.0. But he said it was really tough to set up.

It can be, but if you are willing to learn (or have already) and can setup a box fairly easily and know your linux tools (non distro specific) then you will be ok. Slack is very nice, and worth the work IMO. However, Mandrake is an excellent distro, especially with it's ALSA-by-default (for quite some time) I'd suggest to stick with it until you learn how to use the linux tools. Once you are ready, go for it, it's defintely worth the work!

Cool

I vote Gentoo
If you want to learn more about linux and your machine gentoo will definitely help you get there.

lilo rules

Red Hat 8.0.98 Beta 2 rules. End of topic.

Mandrake is now in trouble again. (the financial problem)
So Mandrake supporters should cross their fingers, or you are going to be using Mandrake 9.0 for the rest of your lives.

Well, I just downloaded RH9 this weekend, I had a few problems, nothing that I could fix. But for some reason I haven't been able to set the server yet.
Although I am very excited about this new (to me) operating system.
It does even have a new smell. hehehe

As far as Mandrake I haven't tried yet.

thanks.

Renatopia

Originally posted by MasterC Something I do like more about RH though is it's (well old RH anyway) lack of "proprietary" tools. I didn't use RH very much, so I might be completely wrong on this, but other than it's very own RPM system which it created, it doesn't make it's own gui wrappers for easing system tasks. I do very much like Madrake's lineup of tools, like drakx and such, but I also see that as a huge problem when trying to generically troubleshoot.

Eh Master C? I can tell you don't use Red Hat.

Red Hat has it's own set of system and network administration tools (both command-line and gui). They are much better than the competition

I've used Red Hat since version 5. Love it. Tried Mandrake version 7 and it totally sucked.

Red Hat all the way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes i agree with darthtux, i love redhat the way it is.
The first time using linux, i was using Mandrake, and get sucked there. Then i go for redhat and it is excellent distro.

I am using redhat till now and haven't give me any problem yet, maybe redhat is suit for me or maybe redhat is the best distro of the century (i guess)

Good. I hear GOOD things, and I like it.
I'll just have to be RedHat's Advocate, hehehe, because I've used it since RedHat 3.2 first came out. Those days were fun.

I'm just very used to RedHat, and eventhough right now is very different than version 3.*, the transition of changes through the different versions have been done quite well. And well, most changes have been done for the better, so I'm very happy with RH up to today.

I also used Slackware 3.2, back then, and it was nice too.

As to Mandrake....I saw it on a friends laptop, and it looked okay, but really, Mandrake is just too....oriented towards level 0 linux users, and with their excessive point-click-point-click tools, their code sometimes is not as clean as you would hope.

Reading this thread, it makes me wonder some things... I hope you guys don't mind me sharing some thoughts...

Is it destined for Linux users to wholeheartedly hate their first distro? By reading this thread, and a few others... it does seem that this is the case. And my personal experience almost confirms it.

My first distro was RH5. It was hell! Heck... worse than hell! I never sat in front of a PC for more than 24 hours just doing an OS installation my whole life until I tried installing RH5... To this very day, it still holds the record for the longest attended installation I've ever done.

The end result would be worthwhile if in the end I would be able to use it like I used Windows... but nooooooo... it had just have to be another cockup, not by RH, but my stupid hardware... specifically a Winmodem. And to top it off, I nuked my Windows partition as well... again, acknowledged that it's not RH's fault at all.

That particular incident put me off Linux for roughly 5 years... and then the Linux call was becoming increasingly loud to the point of being deafening... The Linux itch needs scratching again... and this time I swear to God it won't be RH... and it being widely seen as the MS of Linux doesn't make my decision any harder at all.

I played around with WinLinux, I don't what version... but in the docs it mentioned that it's based on Mandrake Linux... and Linux performance on FAT partition isn't that nice, so I decided to try out this Mandrake thing.

Mandrake (7.1 I think) was the total opposite story of my RH hell. It's nice and cute and detects most of my hardware correctly. Configuring it to use dialup is still hard, but in the end it still works well, in fact it seems much faster than Windows (at this time I've bought a proper non-Winmodem). At this stage, I'm still more of an end-user... I just need a box which I can use to surf the net, check my email, and basically that's it... I don't even use IM, so I had none of the If only there was a decent IM app for Linux bla bla bla... issues back then.

I started using Linux more, and more, and more thanks to Mandrake... Started using newer versions of Mandrake... Then I started to get interested in installing apps, and something that still stuck in my mind from the RH5 days was installing apps from sources. It seems that I almost always will fail installing things from source in Mandy with reasons such as not able to find so and so libs, or headers, or whatever... And RPMs seems like some strange RH-concocted cocked-up system which will always fail with some dependency-related error message.

However, my days as a dependency-hunting moron will soon come to an end... the distro that I have to thank for that is Slackware... It was the sheer simplicity of the distro that caught onto me... Not to mention the packaging system... My reasoning then was that it was invented waaaayyy before RPMs became mainstream, so it must be more stable.

To cut a long story short... I never looked back... Although I do play with other distros like Gentoo and Arch... built an LFS system... but there's just something about Slackware that makes me come back to it...