Getting more and more tired of Ubuntu. What other distros to try?
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Originally Posted by CrazyGuy158
Unless I'm seriously mistaken, User Account Control is notifying when programs want to somehow make changes to my computer or when I do changes, depending on what level of it you have set. I find this extremely cumbersome and I have always disabled it whenever I reinstall Windows 7.
It is there to ensure that you are made aware of any program requesting a change to your system and to give you the chance to refuse permission for that change. That program could be anything from the game you're installing to the javascript exploit on the site you visited trying to plant a trojan in your startup folder.
If you can't putt up with a little annoyance for the sake of security then might I suggest you find a copy of XP, install that and run it as administrator. You won't like Linux asking you for your password every time you want to install software.
If you were more specific about what you didn't like about Ubuntu you would get more productive guidance. Any Linux can be configured into almost anything. Ubuntu is one of the easiest to set up, and most things just work. What people find when they diverge to other less developed distros is that things don't work the way they expect, and a lot of time is wasted just looking for something different.
Apparently you do not know what you are doing. Why run a system that is open to harm? UNIX/UNIX-Like & some Gnu/Linux are setup to secure the system so as not to have gotchas, weakness or holes that are potential problems for a system. UAC on a Microsoft system is a poor access control method. So do not associate UAC to a Gnu/Linux since the user controls/permissions are broader and easier to control on a Gnu/Linux in the hands of a good admin.
As far a I am concerned you can run as 'root' on YOUR machines. Your choice! If your running as root does not effect anyone else then it's OK by me. But when your system has been violated and problems occur that damage someone else then you are responsible. And you should be held accountable to the full extent of the law. We as users do have responsibilities to others if what we say or do affect other users.
Too many people cannot let Microsoft go therefore attempts to do something that aligns with what they know to a known secure system are just opening a Pandora's box. Some wish to setup Vista/7 UAC on a Gnu/Linux. I say: setup or modify your system to suit the environment not cripple it. One reason too many script kiddies can create issues is in that people do not understand security or hardening for a system.
Ease of use is one thing but to be too lazy to enter a password to allow actions is wrong in my book.
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What is this? Misconception junction?
I did in no way associate Windows with Linux. I just explained why I hate the UAC for Windows 7 and I also asked if there was a way for me to always be recognized as adminstrator? Sometimes, it says I need administrator privileges to do something (WHILE RUNNING WINDOWS 7) when I AM THE ADMINISTRATOR.
I don't run as constant root while running Linux! I hardly ever use the "root" access like that on Linux. If I need to install a package, I use sudo.
UAC in Windows 7 might be good to some, but for me it's a pain in the rear. The only "harmful" I've gotten so far on any Windows machine in years are tracking cookies.
Last edited by CrazyGuy158; 07-13-2012 at 11:10 AM.
I did in no way associate Windows with Linux. I just explained why I hate the UAC for Windows 7 and I also asked if there was a way for me to always be recognized as adminstrator? Sometimes, it says I need administrator privileges to do something (WHILE RUNNING WINDOWS 7) when I AM THE ADMINISTRATOR.
I don't run as constant root while running Linux! I hardly ever use the "root" access like that on Linux. If I need to install a package, I use sudo.
UAC in Windows 7 might be good to some, but for me it's a pain in the rear. The only "harmful" I've gotten so far on any Windows machine in years are tracking cookies.
Running as AN Administrator in Windows is not the same as running as root in Linux. Running as a Windows Administrator is not the same as running as the Administrator account (which is usually hidden/disabled), and running as an Administrator does not give you the same kind of ability as a root user would have in Linux. UAC is to inform you than an action you've taken is requesting elevated privilege, which could have greater consequences than running with normal user permissions. It is not the same as a Linux su or sudo.
As far as the quest for the perfect OS, it's doomed. All the distros you tried can all be configured many ways, even to look and act alike. You're not looking for the perfect Linux, you're looking for the perfect DESKTOP EXPERIENCE, and quite frankly, there isn't one. They all have tradeoffs. I've used them all, and I find KDE to be the one I prefer. It has the right balance of features, and I can make it look like I want. I'm sure you'll find plenty of people here that say it sucks and is horrible, but that's irrelevant, they can use whatever they want. That's the real reason to use Linux, you can morph it in to pretty much whatever you want. I use Ubuntu and Mint with KDE, call me weird.
Last edited by guyonearth; 07-13-2012 at 12:26 PM.
You know what, I'll stay with Windows. I don't have the time (or energy, for that matter) running something else. In the future, though, I'll go with Xubuntu or something.
I know it's hard suggesting things to me. I have always had this little problem where I find it extremely hard to decide. It's been like that since I was little and it happened today. I spent 5 minutes deciding between a can of coke and a can of pepsi today at the grocery store.
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Originally Posted by CrazyGuy158
You know what, I'll stay with Windows. I don't have the time (or energy, for that matter) running something else.
Well, enjoy; Windows will go well with that Fanta you purchased.
I know: most people here have similar feelings towards your chosen Operating system..
Believe it or not, but I don't like Windows 7 either. The only (read ONLY) reason I use Windows 7 currently is for the games support. If Linux had a way (without Wine) to run the games I wanna play natively and fine, and if ATi had at least decent Linux drivers, I wouldn't ever look back to Windows.
By the way, why is my reputation disabled? Have I made such a bad name for myself?
The only way you could play those games "natively" is if someone ported them to a Linux environment, it has nothing to do with Linux itself. Linux is a kernel only, what is done with it is up to the thousands of groups and individuals that make use of it. Since porting commercial games involves copyright issues, as well as a substantial amount of time and effort, there is little incentive to do so.
Your downfall is that you seem to expect Linux to replace Windows on a click for click basis. Windows is a heavily developed commercial product containing tens of millions of lines of proprietary code that can't be duplicated or even legally reverse engineered. It is a monolithic product with a well-defined focus and tightly controlled development, and tens of thousands of people work on it. Linux distributions are largely the result of volunteers being creative and doing the best they can, despite widely divergent interests and agendas. Most distributions are handled by a core of just a few people. It is not reasonable to expect Linux to just pick up and take over everthing Windows does. You have to make some allowances and adapt to it's strengths, and yes, make some sacrifices. If you're looking for a clone of Windows, Linux is not it.
Last edited by guyonearth; 07-14-2012 at 10:46 AM.
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