The Russians who are in Russia cannot (with a few rare exceptions) see your post, and are already "home". The Russians in Ukraine generally lack internet access and are under command, in uniform, and may be shot if they try to go home.

I think you are sending the wrong message to the wrong people!

Good intentions are not without value. Do they have internet limited access in Russia? Propaganda?

Hi sundialsvcs. What happens if a Russian citizen holds up a blank piece of paper in public, and why?

Putin started working to isolate the "Russian Internet" from the rest of the world in 2020, and started blocking access in early 2022.
There were news articles and discussion about it all OVER the place back then, and if you look for them you can still read most of them now.

To be honest I would prefer peace.

I can't say one country of the two is better in reality.

Paying Ukraine seems a poor choice. If Russia does or did win they would eventually dissolve. I just don't see it as a US issue worth more than 10 cents let along $21B.

There has to be more to the story than I have been told is my guess. Someone in Ukraine did something or there is some natural resource we haven't heard about.

Ukraine has the largest nuclear power plant in the world.

Ukraine has the best grain fields, and feeds nearly half of the world. This war has caused additional starvation on three continents just due to the grain trade disruptions alone!

Ukraine has a democratic form of government, and had just defeated massive corruption and discarded a field of Russian assets that had been planted in the Ukraine government. Those agents belonged to Putin, and without them the country would have qualified for NATO membership in about 20 years. The USA, the UK, and half of the EU had helped them solve those corruption problems but had made no commitment about NATO membership. All of the democratic nations in the world had a stake in the success of Ukraine, and they had diplomatic partnerships with many.

Ukraine is defending democracy and strengthening the NATO alliance, and defending the interests of the UK, EU, several African nations, some South American nations, Mexico, Canada, and the USA in that part of the world.

No sane person wants Putin to win this, because then he gets to choose his next target and it might be YOU!

On the scale of the US defense budget, ten times what we have provided Ukraine would still be chump change.
We are getting good value for the investment, and if Ukraine survives they will pay us back over time.

And if you really did not know any of this, I can suggest some recommended ready for you. Or, you could look it up yourself if it matters to you.
I am retired US military, experienced in Military Intelligence at a low level (Company, Battalion, some Division level), and sworn to defend democracy and the US constitution: I care enough. I am sometimes wrong, and we are all born ignorant, but I care enough to look it up once I suspect something.

I'm not convinced that Ukraine is such a wonderful country. If I had to choose I'd choose the US spend money on the US.

I would like to see the US pay me for my health issues caused by terrorist attack when I was in the Navy.

Look up the Azov Movement and Azov Regiment. That organisation has been in control of Ukraine from behind the scenes for the last 10 years or so. Just last year they appointed a new ultra right, white supremacist commander.

The west traded Russian puppets for Nazis - and that's always what interference brings. The same horrendous mess in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc, etc. Power vacuums lead to less than desirable regimes being installed - but the US/UK/EU/NATO don't care so long as they're not allied with Russia. This has always been about replacing Russian interests with those of the US and its allies, while expanding NATO to Russia's borders.

When the Warsaw Pact was dissolved, the Russian government at the time were promised that the same would go for NATO - the opposite was true.

No one seems to have noticed that Zelenskii is a Jew. Funny sort of Nazi!

It has the largest (by output) nuclear power station in Europe. Zapoprizhzhia is the tenth largest nuclear power station in the world.


It does not feed nearly half the world. Before the war, Ukraine accounted for nearly half the global market in sunflower oil and around 10% of the wheat market (although Russia was around 15%) and 15% of the corn market. In total, pre-war, Ukraine's food exports were enough to feed around 400 million people or 5 per cent of the world's population. It wasn't known as the breadbasket of Europe for nothing, but Ukraine doesn't come anywhere near close to feeding half of the world.


Arguably it was Russia's invasion of Ukraine, rather than Ukraine's resistance, that strengthened NATO. But I would be interested to know what UK interests are being well served by Ukraine?

As I said - read up on the Azov Movement and the role of the Azov Regiment in Ukraine's defence and politics for yourself. You seem to be denying they exist? Him being a Jew or not is irrelevant. He associates with and tolerates these people.

The Azov Brigade certainly has links with neo-Nazism and this has undoubtedly proved useful for Russian propaganda, but it's not something promoted by Ukraine. When you are fighting for your country's existence (at least in its current form), your priorities – and tolerances for things unhelpful to your enemy – will adapt.

When Russian troops invaded the first cities they interrogated the people looking for Nazis. They did not find any, nor did the people know where there were any. There are certainly some (because there are some EVERYWHERE) but they are mostly Russian propaganda ghosts, there are fewer in Ukraine than in some US states.

Currently Nazi influence in Ukraine government is minimal, and has not been significant since the corrupt government officials were replaced with more honest ones.

well, Putin does not see massacre/slaughter, not like EU. If Russia conquests Ukraine, then, more slaughtering will occur at larger scale.
Human Right Court should do something. Question is whether to send weapons or not. Likely not. You dont give coins for more mess.

@wpeckham: I’d like to see – by specific URL or bibliographic reference – to support your assertion that “Nazi’s weren’t there.” I would also like to see your justification of “the Azov battalion.” Oh. Maybe they belong to UNICEF.

Otherwise, you are proclaiming, from half a planet away, that the nation which paid a far greater price in blood than any other in WW2 actually doesn’t know what it is talking about. Why do they still celebrate “Victory Day,” and silently carry black-and-white photographs? What do they know?

The first mistake to make, when someone that you happen to disagree with is talking, is to declare that he doesn’t know what he is talking about.