hi,

well i've been following the browser stats for quite a long time now (more than a year) and the trend suggests a continues fall of the abominable IE and with other browser rising in particular chrome (which is sky-rocketing)

i'm wondering though why FF has been in relative decline in comparison to its previous stats.

any insights on why FF is losing ground while chrome is gaining consecutively ?

what does this mean in the long term in your opinion?

regards

Gecko is rather slugish compared to webkit I guess. If one turns java script off in Firefox it's a fast browser again. Lot of web sites use java script though.

Others no doubt like chromes look

Firefox got show, especially when lots of add-ons and extensions are installed. I think Mozilla is working on that.

Chrome is fast.

I really do think that that is the main thing.

I have looked at Chrome; it's slick. But I won't use it.

Although I think that Google generally has tried to live up to its "Don't be evil" motto (with a couple of notable missteps), I have decided not to willy-nilly volunteer any more information to them than I must.

Ya that's my opinion too.

If you want to try a decent liitle web kit browser give Midori a try.
There's also XXXterm which is webkit with vi key bindings.

Firefox has all of those nice plugins.

IE will only 'lose' X% of internet users. There will always be a certain amount of people who will use IE for various reasons.

So there is only Y% people who will use a different broswer to IE, and all the browsers will be 'fighting' for that %. Not that surprising that if chrome is picking up users, at least some of them are previous firefox users.

Chrome is in many ways 'flavour of the month' (though its more like 'flavour of a slightly longer period' LOL). Besides getting more advertisements than firefox, there has been a lot of people doing 'tech advice', blogs, etc. saying how good chrome is. Thats enough to push quiet a few users from firefox to chrome.

Long term- its likely to make the uptake chromeOS slightly higher. Its also going to increase the amount of information gathered by google. Maybe it will encourage other companies to play licence games like google is as well.....

I switched to Chrome (Chromium) because in my opinion Firefox 4 is garbage and I used it for many years until 4!

I can get all my extensions I use in Chromium and have a faster/cleaner browser... I really like it!

well to be honest that was my first impression when i first used FF 4 , i especially loath the "new cache" mechanism....

however personal preferences (and perhaps grievances aside) i'm asking what impacts could it have that google will run the primary browser in the world?
(it's indisputable that chrome will become #1 within a finite amount of time , if it keeps going up like that every month!)

what are the chances of vendor lock-in's and that kind of crap happening with google?
i've mixed feelings about this...(and opinions as well)

regards

I don't think much will change unless they take the road many other companies take, then they will lose.

Apple was the top of the smartphone market, what did Steve do? He tried to change the way the world computed and it did not work (tried to banish flash). Myspace was top dog for ages and decided you as a person did not matter anymore and took away your choice and flooded you with ads.... FAIL! Now the underdog is top dog (no one used FB in those days).

The problem becomes a problem when you think you are to big to fail. If Google comes up and thinks because it is the browser leader that it can just change things people like and people will "suck it up", they will be wrong and another player will come along and step into the position.

Companies/people have different ways of handling power, handle it correctly and you prosper, let it go to your head and you fail (Apple is learning this slowly), we will see....

aha , that was an epic post/pwnage of those control freak personalities in the technology world (i.e steve jobs)

i'd think that things will lay out like that , that said i'm still having a lot of hard feelings towards M$ because it's the only entity that did not learn this crucial lesson and is apparently getting away with it (or are they not ??)


but i digress,

what are the chances that google for instance holds back the source code of any of its pioneer projects such as the case with android honeycomb?

regards

Personal opinion ONLY here, I have not researched adequately.

I think that the primary reason for other browsers taking a bit of the FF population back is due to the 'new' factor. Most users really had no viable choice. IE, Opera, and FireFox were the only browsers that were both reasonably advanced AND reasonably complete. Since CHROME came out there have been new improved released of FF and Opera, but CHROME has had the major buzz in the business.

I prefer FF, mostly due to the settings and extensions. I use Chrome from time to time, but return to FF as my default. ANY of them dominate IE at everything except rendering non-standard IE specific pages.

As long as there are numbers and interest to keep FF, Chrome, and Opera on top of development and TECHNICALLY ahead of IE, I really do not care which has the most users. 'My' internet is more secure and more standard and correct the less IE is used, and that is my first priority.

Firefox 4.0 on my office Windows 7 machine has turned out to be a piece of $hit.
FF 3.6.x was great on Win. Fast and stable.

Though on my Mint 10 machine plus LMDE 2010 laptop, FF 4 works like a charm, though it's still behind Chrome in terms of peppiness.

Yeah whatever comes/dominates in the future it would be definitely better than any crap coming from M$.

i can't wait to see IE rotting in the graveyard of forgotten software ...LOL

I'm not sure how exactly "apple is learning this". Looks like they're doing just fine.

well keeping aside the issue of Apple's learning process , this statement raised my eyebrowns :

"Analysts" believed M$ will come out on top in the smartphone biz ????? What the heck were those "analysts" smocking when they made that "estimation" ????
M$'s presence in the mobile market is virtually nothing (apart from some pathetic devices that they have toasted out) , looks like those at Wall Street never heard of Android i presume ...LOL

Remember about nokia/microsoft partnership? "Better than iOS" doesn't mean "on top of the business", by the way.