Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn Agreed, or should I say, aGreed ... the "greed" part being a deadly sin that M$ commits. $teve Ba££mer is a malicious, market-barrier-setting robber-baron who cares about no one else but him$elf.

I think of him even worse, but I can't use the language here.

BTW, I found this quote online. It's a bit dated but still applies to Micro$oft today.

"Stop Microsoft through government antitrust enforcement now or say goodbye to new products and the openness of the Internet. Gates will own everything, and collect a fee on every imaginable product and service in cyberspace from home finance to a virtual visit to the Louvre. And forget about getting these products and services someplace else. Competitors won't exist." -Antitrust attorney Gary Reback

I totally agree with that quote. Someone has to put a leash on micro$oft, or they will continue their EVIL and diabolical business practices.

Originally Posted by leopard I want to have a friendly debate, but I can't do it that way. Cut the crap, come back to Earth and let's be friends. You CAN be a pretty interesting person to talk too... Not trying to be rude, just saying what I feel; I don't want poor XavierP to have to come and close this one too.

Agreed! Please, let's not turn this into a rehash of the (now closed) Window v. Linux thread(and yes, I am aware that I contributed to the problems therein a few times, myself).

Moving on, and staying on-topic... XP can be made stable and reliable, but it's old- 10 years or so(?), and hardly worth the effort. My biggest problem with all versions of Windows is the lack of useful software included... if I were to pay hundreds for an OS, I wouldn't want to pay as much again for a decent office program.

Anyway, Linux is more interesting, and more fun!

Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn For the love of God, why are you laughing

I think the second little guy was yawning, not laughing... I like the brick wall guy, very funny.

hm, using Vista since about 2.5 years, and havn't come across any of the problems many describe.
Never been virus infected (well, at least according to my AV, nor any indication of it either in other ways), no trojans yet either, etc.

Had a BSOD two times in these years, once through a DX9 problem when running VietCong using DX10, the other time don't remember anymore what the reason was.

Never used Media Center, so can't say how that is. Media Player's usually enough, and when it fails, I use the DivX player.

Havn't tried Win7 yet.
Next machine I might buy this coming year will get Win7 though.
The laptop I only use as an alarm mornings to wake me up runs XP Pro, enough for its task.

The other two machines here run Debian Testing for me local dev playbox, and the still broken box (too lazy to fix) used to run OpenBSD

Well I'm about to build a new rig. I already got the case and P.S. This is the basics:

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1 Case

Thermaltake TR2 TRX-650M 650W ATX Power Supply

ZALMAN CNPS10X FLEX CPU Cooler. I hope it fits. lol

GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 AM3 Mobo

AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor. Wish I could find the OEM version of this.

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin SDRAM DDR3 1600 memory

You can bet that rig will never see windoze either.

I figure that will be better than the one I have now. My old one is about 7 or 8 years old. I think it is in my sig too.

Originally Posted by rsciw Never used Media Center, so can't say how that is. Media Player's usually enough, and when it fails, I use the DivX player.

Search the following in the Vi$ta start menu and you'll see just how poorly designed it is:

C:\Windows\ehome\ehshell.exe

It's so poorly designed it still resides in a folder within the System Root that has XP MCE's original code name! LOL

It boggles my mind how you people can endorse and defend a company like Micro$oft
who is trying to destroy linux and opensource.

And I reiterate -- trying to DESTROY LINUX.

Originally Posted by dv502 trying to DESTROY LINUX.

If so, they're doing a poor job of it.

I remembered when Micro$oft tried to eliminate Apple and the Macintosh. And Apple is still here. The only difference is Apple had the money to fight back against micro$oft.

Still...micro$oft is trying do the same today to linux and these people don't see
the type of company microso$t is.

Sigh....I don't know whether to laugh or get very angry at some of you people...Microsoft is in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM HALF OF WHAT YOU SAY!!!! If they are, prove it. AND NOT SOME LINK TO A PERSONAL BLOG OF SOME BASEMENT LINUX FANBOY (like Kenny), BUT A LEGIT DOCUMENT. And also, what business doesn't try to get rid of their competition? That's just bad business. Every business has the right to exist as does almost everything and is GUARANTEED here in the US. If you don't believe me, read about it geniuses. And how are they trying to destroy Open-Source??? Didn't you know that Microsoft owned a CRAP-TON of Novell Market Share who BTW makes SUSE and OpenSUSE? Why do they still exist? SILVERLIGHT RUNS ON LINUX, MAC AND WINDOWS. MS OFFICE RUNS ON MAC. Microsoft knows they can't eliminate their competition, so make products for them and you win. Some of you Linux Fanboys are really the same (or worse) than some of the XBox 360 and Windows fanboys (yes I'm comparing you to 8 year old kids who don't know how to spell and just say your mom jokes over and over cause they can't win).

Now, on subject. I do use Vista, and I've only had it crash twice. Once, was I made a plugin for the PSP that gives you the BSOD when plugged into an XP or Vista as a practical joke on a couple of my friends by making the PSP tell the computer that a new device was plugged in and that the driver is on the disk which then overflows everything. The next was when my sister decided to accidentally run "rm -rf /mnt/vista/WINDOWS/System32" in Linux and I tried to boot it up. She claimed she was trying to solve a problem. xD

My biggest complaint with Windows is the Filesystem....this is the 21st century Microsoft....I want a journaling-enabled filesystem for Windows. I HATE having to defrag the computer when I don't need to in Linux. NTFS has been around since, forever I guess. xD I know it has had improvements, but seriously guys....get with it. Other than that, I'm good.

Originally Posted by soppy The next was when my sister decided to accidentally run "rm -rf /mnt/vista/WINDOWS/System32" in Linux and I tried to boot it up. She claimed she was trying to solve a problem.

Now THAT'S funny!

Originally Posted by soppy Microsoft is in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM HALF OF WHAT YOU SAY!!!! If they are, prove it.

If they are not (and I know they're in even worse shape or form), prove it.

Originally Posted by soppy AND NOT SOME LINK TO A PERSONAL BLOG OF SOME BASEMENT LINUX FANBOY (like Kenny), BUT A LEGIT DOCUMENT.

Go here. There you can see 21,900,000 links to something that in one way or another shows what a piece of shit M$ is. Happy reading.

And I have no will or desire to go deeper into this.

Windows is awesome. Linux is fantastic. Proprietary software is entertaining, FOSS is downright fun. BSODs SUCK, kernel panics equally so.

Love it or hate it, computers rule.

Originally Posted by alan_ri If they are not (and I know they're in even worse shape or form), prove it. Go here. There you can see 21,900,000 links to something that in one way or another shows what a piece of shit M$ is. Happy reading. And I have no will or desire to go deeper into this.

These lawsuits are for patents (obviously didn't look through all 21,900,00 cause that's too many ). That's different. That was actually Linux's own fault for not covering its tracks in the US and Microsoft taking advantage. They're not really "shutting Linux down" they're just punishing users who use Linux because Microsoft is whiny and is that one little brat who gets almost everything it wants because it has the most money. But legally, Microsoft can never shut down Open-source and/or competitors. I do agree that they're greedy, that they produce products that open-source programmers probably crapped out, ate and then crapped out again, and that they don't really listen to the Users about what we want. Even though their whole Winodws 7 ads claimed "we" built Windows 7, they were just items that they took from Linux, Compiz and Mac then put them in their own OS. Technically, if Linux had patents surrounding it we could sue Microsoft for their Windows 7 user interface because of certain features it has that were previously only in Compiz. But we're not in computing for a profit like they are, we're in it to make the most of our systems and to have fun.

I respect your opinion alan_ri, however I see that we don't see eye to eye. Which is 100% fine with me. Everyone has their own opinions, it's just some people claim theirs is right and no one else's is. Oh well, consider our conversation over. Nice talking to you!

And mudangel, it was hilarious. Needless to say, she's not allowed to try to "fix" anything else while following a YouTube video in Linux. xD

Amen leopard.

Originally Posted by alan_ri If they are not (and I know they're in even worse shape or form), prove it. Go here. There you can see 21,900,000 links to something that in one way or another shows what a piece of shit M$ is. Happy reading. And I have no will or desire to go deeper into this.

Very interesting links...