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Since upgrading packages in FC3, I have no sound in my system
When I run alsaconf it says that any Supported PCI or PnP Card was found.
But "lspci" shows it :
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 30)
and also my snd-via82xx driver it exists in the kernel modules
alsaconf is not included in FC3, so what you have installed or upgraded to is no longer FC3
Are you sure you don't work for the Debian project?
Why isn't alsaconf included with FC3? I got no sound; I installed "alsa-utils," I ran alsaconf, and now I have sound. Wonder how many of these folks's problems alsaconf would solve -- if it were included in FC3.
One also wonders why support for NTFS and playing MP3s isn't included, but that's another post.
Well, sound card configuration should be done by system-config-soundcard, and the rest of the system should just work and not need ugliness such as alsaconf's alsasound rc script. But this is just my personal view.
The thread you link to is about FC2, which was the first Fedora Core to use ALSA officially. It had its problems, also due to upgrades from FC1 or older. But ALSA itself is not fully stable yet either, and for some users, un-muting mixers is not the cure to all soundcard related problems.
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One also wonders why support for NTFS and playing MP3s isn't included, but that's another post.
Well, since you brought it up, expect a comment. As someone who uses Red Hat Linux 9 (according to your short profile), you should know already, that since Red Hat Linux 8.0, Red Hat dropped software which is encumbered with patent claims, licencing issues or unknown legal status.
Oops, need to update that profile. I've been using Knoppix, and more specifically, a Knoppix variant called Kanotix, for some time now (Kanotix is easier to upgrade with standard Debian tools). They're both live CDs based on Debian that you can install to your hard drive. Highly recommended.
The reason I installed Fedora Core 3 on my spare paritition is that I've got this multifunction Samsung fax/laser printer (SF-565P) that came with (proprietary) Linux drivers. Figured the driver would install on a popular distro like FC3, SuSE, or Mandrake, but I've tried all three over the course of a few months and unfortunately the printer driver doesn't seem to work on any of them. (It's not an RPM or a DEB, it's a script that launches a graphical installer.)
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Well, sound card configuration should be done by system-config-soundcard, and the rest of the system should just work and not need ugliness such as alsaconf's alsasound rc script.
What does "ugliness" have to do with it? (Horrors, it's console-based.) ALSA is a complex beast, and in my limited experience, alsaconf works.
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since Red Hat Linux 8.0, Red Hat dropped software which is encumbered with patent claims, licencing issues or unknown legal status.
Yes, and left its users to fend for themselves to get basic functionality that every other major Linux distro (in my limited experience) includes out of the box. Granted, only us dual-booters need NTFS support, but just about everyone wants to play MP3s.
You want ugly? Manually editing "yum.conf" and then typing "yum install xmms-mp3" at the command line, now that's ugly. Assuming you can get sound in the first place, that is.
ALSA is a complex beast, and in my limited experience, alsaconf works.
And for some users, it doesn't. I do know alsaconf and the alsasound initscript, too. I've participated in QA'ing ALSA add-ons for Fedora Core 1 as offered at http://fedora.us -- system-config-soundcard also just works. It is expected to just work. And if it doesn't, the user ought to submit a bug report, so the tool can be repaired.
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Yes, and left its users to fend for themselves to get basic functionality that every other major Linux distro (in my limited experience) includes out of the box.
Shrug. I can't speak to the legal arguments. But if I were to recommend a distro to someone new to Linux, here's how I would present the pros and cons of Fedora Core.
Pros:
Free/GPL
Probably the most well-documented Linux distro in existence. Go to a bookstore and you can buy any one of several books from major publishers that not only explain how to use FC but include it on CD or DVD. This fact alone makes it a good choice for new Linux users
Many easy-to-use Python-based applets take the pain out of using the command line
Cons:
No MP3 support
No NTFS support
Bluecurve (personal preference, but I want KDE to look like KDE and GNOME to look like GNOME -- Bluecurve was the "it's time to move to another distro" tipping point for me)
Defaults to GNOME (I'm a KDE partisan)
RPM-based (welcome to dependency hell -- APT is demonstrably better)
Uses its own login manager (Did we really need another one? What's wrong with gdm and kdm?)
Traditional Linux CLI-based tools are obscured by easy-to-use Python-based applets; some tools such as "alsaconf" replaced by applets that don't always work
It's too bad that Mandrake doesn't have the books written about it like Fedora does. IMHO, the only thing Fedora has going to recommend it to a newbie is the sheer amount of documentation written for it. (Debian has a bit too steep of a learning curve.)
[*]RPM-based (welcome to dependency hell -- APT is demonstrably better)
First of all, APT is not a package format, but a package management front-end. Secondly, Apt-RPM exists for ages and it and Synaptic are quite popular, too. It has been offered by 3rd party repositories for Red Hat Linux and Fedora Core for a long time.
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[*]Uses its own login manager (Did we really need another one? What's wrong with gdm and kdm?)
Well ! , I discovered finaly that alsaconf in not included in FC3 well reinstalled it to have a clean installation.
FC3 is my first Fedora project distro, RH9.0 is the last Redhat distro and it included alsaconf.
Thanks for informations, many of them are new for me.
RH9.0 is the last Redhat distro and it included alsaconf.
Red Hat Linux 9 didn't include ALSA at all. The first one to ship ALSA was Fedora Core 2. For Fedora Core 1, ALSA add-on packages (including alsaconf and alsasound initscript) were offered at http://fedora.us
I don't understand this, but from where I have obtained it ?
did you use RH9 ? I have the 3 installation CDs and they include ALSA.
What do u mean by "INCLUDE ALSA", what packages?
I am sorry, they really don't include ALSA.
I have a confusion, I have used Mandrake for 4 years (since Mandrake 7) and it includes ALSA
Thank you my teacher
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