Hello Hazel
As much as I study Linux and the six dozen or so books I purchased including yours I have a very difficult time with the concepts. I have a Medical Technologist degree and someone with that type of education one would think I could grasp the Linux concepts but such is not the case and it's very frustrating so I seek the help of the Linux Community. I abhor Windows and my persistent questions are not welcome here because I don't do the "homework". It's not because I am lazy. I just don't understand these matters. So my only choice is not ask questions.

While composing the last few posts it is in the back of my mind a certain person is going to come crashing down on me to provide the details, etc. He has a gift of words to belittle someone while disguising his ugliness. He just wants a neat and tidy forum I guess. It certainly is not to educate. It would be so much better if he would just overlook my replies and and as they say "if you don't like what is on the television, then turn the channel".

Well I am not going to go back to Windows and will continue to ask questions on this forum and try to do better in providing details and if it doesn't suit certain individuals then that is their issue not mine. I happen to like it here.

So then PROVIDE THE DETAILS...this is your second rant about how 'ugly' things are, yet you don't seem to find the time to answer any questions that any of us have asked. And you've been here for YEARS now...how long does it take before it sinks in that you have to show some effort of your own and provide details??? This is *NOT A HELP DESK*...we are all volunteers, and YOU, PERSONALLY, need to do your part in helping solve YOUR problem.

Your question is like calling a mechanic and saying "My vehicle doesn't run, what could it be?". What, exactly, do you think is going to be their response?? They're going to ask simple questions like "What kind of vehicle? Gas or diesel? Do the lights come on? Is there fuel?" That's not being 'ugly', mean, etc....that's basics you should provide. Whining about getting asked things does nothing to let others help you.

Why is is so hard to say, "I've got model XXX computer, and it's having problems booting. I've checked the log at /some/log/file but don't see anything I think is an error; heres the last few lines. Any ideas on what to check for?" rather than having us have to pry things out of you??? Again, you've been here for years...looking in a log file should be something you know how to do, since you've been *TOLD TO MANY TIMES BEFORE*. The list of reasons why something won't boot is huge and without any information at all, none of us can even guess.

You've asked the same questions several times in a row, indicating you don't listen to the answers or even care. Why should any of us here continue to try to help you when you display this lack of effort and won't answer questions, and then want to whine about how 'mean' people are??? You claim not to be lazy...so why can't you apply anything you've been told/asked in the past and think to yourself "Gee, everyone keeps asking me these questions....perhaps I should post these things WITH my question?"

Go watch a four part Movie. You are disturbed.

From what I can see, you never responded to the suggestions to press ESC during the "hang."

Quiet often systemd will be waiting for some event during shutdown and it will appear to hang if the splash screen is displayed. Press ESC, and if it is not truly hung, you may be greeted with some status messages that may give a clue.

Says the person who continues to rant and attack folks, but still doesn't even answer.

Goumba, he doesn't seem to do much of anything asked, including answering simple questions. Good luck

Please follow the rules.

If you continue to read the thread I did respond. To reiterate I stated when it locks up AGAIN I will try hitting the <ESCAPE> key. Thank you for your feedback.

You are taking this personal so please refrain from your attacks on me and causing dissension. It is not good for the good of the Linux Community especially from an authority as yourself. Don't respond if it bothers you this much. Put me on your ignore list and enjoy helping others. Good Luck. Bye.

Thank you

Yes, and that post was nearly a week ago, with no update.

Reread #4 Goumba.

There has not been an update in over a week, as you say, since the computer has not locked up since then.

Your move.

Maybe it's this thread that ought to be locked up. It doesn't look as if it was going anywhere.

I do not want this thread locked. At some point my computer will lock up again and with the suggestions received will provide the information.

The only one in this thread causing 'dissention' is you, and michaelk's note about attacks was directed to YOU not me. If you feel 'attacked' by someone asking you questions, there isn't much anyone can do for you. Again, multiple people have said these things to you in past years, when you (again) don't provide details or follow up. I recommend you check your previous threads where this has occurred, since you obviously don't remember.
Or you could actually DO SOMETHING, as things were suggested previously; see post #6:

• Boot from USB and run fsck on your hard drive
• Run smartctl to see if you're having hard drive errors
• Run memtest to see if there's a problem there
• Look at the logs to see if there are any errors

Yet you've done nothing...and have had this problem for a year. You could be getting errors in your system logs and they don't manifest as a 'problem' until you try to reboot. AGAIN, since you've given us no information at all, I have no idea why you think we'll be able to tell you anything. You seem to want to play the "poor me I don't know anything" card, yet have been here for years and by your own admission have 'six dozen' Linux books, aside from your studying?? But are totally lost, even when you've been given commands???

Could be anything from a loose cable, power supply going bad, drive failing, memory going bad, or a thousand other things. Since you don't seem to want to actually participate in the forums by supplying information (which helps others with similar problems) and want us to guess, why don't you take your computer to a local shop and have them deal with it?? Everyone would be happier.

And yet there are a ton of unrelated posts. The point of *my* post was to get back on topic so you may get help, because any related post was buried at that point.

I have to agree with TB0ne.

I came by and posted trying to help, and you turned your attitude on me as well, with no good reason. "Your move," quite frankly makes it look like you're an expecting an attack, because that's seemingly *your* intent.

Sounds like a good idea.

On a final topic related note, in case this gets locked, fedora tends to appear to hang after some updates. Likely kernel and kernel tool updates. Dismissing the splash screen - for which I fault Mint with it's static splash screen last I checked which makes it hard to judge - shows a line similar to

Which means shutdown was successful and there is nothing to worry about it. It just did not execute the necessary code to reboot, for whatever reason.