NO, but you can.. it's called 'Google'.

Sorry everyone, I just violated my own request. But this type of answer is probably the only one needed for the pro-systemD crowd.

Those on the fence (deciding) can easily read the various web sites that have sprung off, both in favor (very few, including the mossad anomaly who created it).

I guess thats why he never got around to making PulseAudio proper. If it wasn't for the giants of Linux stepping in to put ban-aids on that other cancer...

There are no interviews or comments made by Linus that attacks Systemd itself. There is only one argument he had against one developer a year and a half ago.

I'm not for systemd, btw. You can read my past posts about that.

I don't see how requesting a link to your evidence is considered being 'for systemd.' I thought I had kept up on the comments Linus had made, and I thought it would be awesome to see that he had finally came out against it.

But thanks for alienating me instead. It's appreciated.

Yea glad I could help.. I'm sure everyone will considered the case settled; since you didn't find .. what you said you didn't.

lol

Systemd was one of the reasons I stopped using Debian. You are correct that Debian is becoming a disgrace, but I cannot figure out how your screen grab is related to it. Besides, everyone knows Debian will have systemd with the next release. There are umpteen threads all over the internet complaining about it. Another one will not help. People who do not want it can either try using the system without systemd, until that option is removed, probably with the release after Jessie, or move on. Red Hat has won the battle. With clever propaganda and "miraculous" reductions of boot time by a few seconds, systemd is now a fact in Linuxland. The few refuges remaining will soon be forced to accept it. The time for complaining is past. It is now time to either accept it or abandon ship.

Maybe you should read things abit more instead of jumping to conspiracy theories.

Quick look behind you, the boogie man is coming

For all those who say it is not in the Unix philosophy then you most certainly wont be happy with this from Linus.

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And forgetting the true geek way: fork Sysinit-V and re-introduce it in later versions. Remember, Linux is all about choice and once I find that choice is deliberately taken from me for commercial reasons and Linux has become just another "windows", I may as well use a commercial OS instead

Probably another two years, give or take a few weeks.

I don't understand why every time a post is made about systemd, it's like a battle ground.
There are a lot of linux OS's that aren't moving that way why not just support them in any way that you can to come up with something better than systemd.
As far as I can see there a lot of people around me(here at LQ, excluding myself), that are quite capable of coming up with another alternative.
Here in the lfs forum there's "Runit" being developed, how many have tried to check it out or contribute in some way, or to assist in developement?
As long as systemd has been out no one has had a complaint until it affects them.
While changes around you are being made, it will only affect you because the next new linux desktop user isn't going to know the difference.

My apologies since I can't possibly offer help on the developement/programming side at the moment.

Not exactly. The people who had a problem with the systemd project, its effects and purpose were dismissed as ignorant conspiracy theory lunatics. Most ignored the problem, until it directly affected them and are now complaining. Impotent rage after not having done anything when they possibly could have accomplished something. Oh well. It is here. Linux users either have to live with it or use something else.

If someone manages to make a feasible alternative out of it, how long do you think it would take Poettering and crew to eliminate the "bug" by making another addition to systemd or to the kernel?

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I would suggest reading up on the subject. I hate to burst your bubble but "old school Unix dude" Linus is definitely not against systemd. Neither is "old school Unix dude" Richard Stallman. Incidentally of which neither are "old school Unix dudes"...

The decision was made by the technical committee - you or I may not agree, they may have agendas, they may be influenced by red hat inc or canonical ltd or any others - that's pretty much irrelevant now. You don't have a say.

The obvious solution now is to just forget it, move on and let the Debian users carry on using their system - with systemd if that's what they want. Poettering and co make references to "systemd-haters" - and low on facts, high on FUD, emotionally charged posts like yours just add fuel to the fire and further their cause.

This was never a Debian only decision, it's an upstream one driven by upstream GNU/Linux focused projects and the developers themselves. Go to the openSUSE, fedora and Arch forums and post the same rants and see what it achieves...

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GOOD!!.. That's the point.(obviously).

.."their cause".. is what needs to be brought to light.

Umm. "Further" a cause means to help it. "Further their cause" means help the cause of the systemd cabal.

I know.. but it's impossible to further their cause.

However, trough their 'trying to further it', more of the real reasons behind systemD will be revealed, as has been the case, more recently.

This thing has sneaked up on us over the years, another obvious sign, that it IS a *Conspiracy*, by the haters of Freedom.

This only helps make their cause look legitimate and your cause look like impotent, ill informed ranting...

If I were a *conspiracy* theorist, I would see your posts as a conspiracy to make "systemd-haters" appear to conform to Poettering's profile of them...

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Yes, I found that your claim about Linus is made up. Lying, FUD people like yourself, do not help the fight against systemD. You hinder it instead. You are the stereotypical systemD hater.

Instead of making things up, lying, and spitting vileness, why not try being honest? Offer solutions to systemD? Gather up people and developers of like-mind to fix the issue at hand?

Take a hard look at the replies in this thread. It seems that people have spotted your lies about Linus and your general vileness and aren't even bothering to include you in the conversation. You are the one being ignored. I mean, aside from these three posts:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...2/#post5251134
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...2/#post5251231
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...2/#post5251335

That counter your lie or point out how you are hurting the anti-systemD cause.