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Old 09-01-2022, 03:30 AM   #1
Hanisch
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Thunderbird ohne PGP-Untertützung


Hallo,
eine ankommende verschlüsselte Nachricht in thunderbird-91.12.0-1.el8.x86_64 kann nicht entschlüsselt werden.
Code:
Dies ist eine verschlüsselte OpenPGP-Nachricht, aber Unterstützung für OpenPGP-Entschlüsselung ist nicht verfügbar.
Unter Extras -> Enigmail-Einstellungen migrieren
passiert gar nichts.

Woran mag das liegen?

Gruß
Ch. Hanisch

Last edited by Hanisch; 09-01-2022 at 03:55 AM.
 
Old 09-01-2022, 06:49 AM   #2
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Old 09-01-2022, 07:04 AM   #3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanisch View Post
Hallo,
eine ankommende verschlüsselte Nachricht in thunderbird-91.12.0-1.el8.x86_64 kann nicht entschlüsselt werden.
Code:
Dies ist eine verschlüsselte OpenPGP-Nachricht, aber Unterstützung für OpenPGP-Entschlüsselung ist nicht verfügbar.
Unter Extras -> Enigmail-Einstellungen migrieren
passiert gar nichts.

Woran mag das liegen?

Gruß
Ch. Hanisch
An incoming encrypted message in thunderbird could not be decrypted.
Code:
This is an OpenPGP message but support for OpenPGP decryption is not available
Extras -> migrate to Enigmail installation did nothing. Why?
 
Old 09-01-2022, 07:52 AM   #4
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Extras -> migrate to Enigmail installation did nothing. Why?
Enigmail has been discontinued. Mozilla said they would add OpenPGP functionality to Thunderbird, so the developer stopped with the plug-in. Unfortunately, October, 2021 came and went without Mozilla ever actually finished implementing OpenPGP support, so Thunderbird users are nowadays left without it since October of last year. Several other capabilities have been broken/removed too.
 
Old 09-02-2022, 09:02 AM   #5
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If you need a graphical front-end to GnuPG wich should work with just any kind of text-software (like Email-clients to name just one), GpgFrontend looks promising.

Edit: Several programs like this exist. Most are outdated.

Last edited by Michael Uplawski; 09-02-2022 at 09:26 AM. Reason: More than one frontend.
 
Old 09-02-2022, 09:19 AM   #6
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Here are two links with background information. One for the late, great Enigmail and one for GNU Privacy Guard which is the underlying technology there:

https://www.enigmail.net/index.php/e...at-is-enigmail

https://www.propublica.org/article/t...is-going-broke

Mozilla is in a position to do a lot of good, but seems instead to be doing harm through inaction.

Edit: In place of the second link, see the one in post #7 below:

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Old 09-02-2022, 09:53 AM   #7
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Here are two links with background information. One for the late, great Enigmail and one for GNU Privacy Guard which is the underlying technology there:

https://www.propublica.org/article/t...is-going-broke
This page is as outdated as most of the GnuPG front-ends.

Here is a better link to a page from January, this year: https://www.gnupg.org/blog/20220102-...for-gnupg.html
The information had also been posted on the GnuPG mailing list.
Quote:
Now we have reached a point where we can benefit from a continuous revenue stream to maintain and extend the software without asking for donations or grants. This is quite a new experience to us and I am actually a bit proud to lead one of the few self-sustaining free software projects who had not to sacrifice the goals of the movement.
As regards front-ends, I have successfully tested GPA (The GNU Privacy Assistant) with GnuPG 2.2.35 and can recommend it.

Edit #4.455.221 (more to come): In contrast to GpgFrontend (see my post #5, above), GPA uses the installed versions of Libassuan, Libgpgerror and GPGME. Without wanting to suggest anything, I prefer that setting. I do not know who has tested GpgFrontend for errors, but will not give it much importance. It is, however, actively maintained.

Last edited by Michael Uplawski; 09-02-2022 at 10:02 AM. Reason: doubt and a dozen more things.
 
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Old 09-02-2022, 10:05 AM   #8
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This page is as outdated as most of the GnuPG front-ends.

Here is a better link to a page from January, this year: https://www.gnupg.org/blog/20220102-...for-gnupg.html
The information had also been posted on the GnuPG mailing list.


As regards front-ends, I have successfully tested GPA (The GNU Privacy Assistant) with GnuPG 2.2.35 and can recommend it.
Well, that's a refreshing bit of good news. Thanks for the correction.

Looking around, there is now another OpenPGP-related project in the works. If I understand correctly, sequoia is a library with C and Python bindings, and it also provides some polished text-interface front-ends for the shell or shell scripts.
 
Old 09-02-2022, 12:11 PM   #9
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If I understand correctly, sequoia is a library with C and Python bindings, and it also provides some polished text-interface front-ends for the shell or shell scripts.
Text front-ends is an interesting perspective...
But my recommendations were directed towards people who want GUI front-ends to GnuPG. All the GnuPG-support that I need – personally –, is provided by a line
Code:
set pgp_use_gpg_agent=yes
in .muttrc.

When PGPClick was actively developed, it made me fear for my knowledge of the PGP-commands. Too much luxury. Today, as I do no longer understand GnuPG, any kind of front-end or the GnuPG-support in Mutt comes handy. I will no longer criticize people for not wanting to dig deeper into the documentation.

However, when I read the sq documentation, I have to wonder what is actually won over calling GnuPG directly.
 
Old 09-03-2022, 11:45 AM   #10
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Hello,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Uplawski View Post
Text front-ends is an interesting perspective...
But my recommendations were directed towards people who want GUI front-ends to GnuPG. All the GnuPG-support that I need – personally –, is provided by a line
Code:
set pgp_use_gpg_agent=yes
in .muttrc.
I will not use an other e-Mail Client like mutt.
My question is:
Why have thunderbird in CentOS no support for PGP?

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
 
Old 09-03-2022, 11:48 AM   #11
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Hello,
My question is:
Why have thunderbird in CentOS no support for PGP?
See #4 above for the short, technical answer. The longer answer has to do with politics on the part of Mozilla, which is nowadays mostly funded by its major competitor, Google, which has been aggressively against mail encryption as it interferes with several of its business models.

Maybe you can pull in a newer version via the Backports repository, it might have partial OpenPGP support.
 
Old 09-03-2022, 12:36 PM   #12
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Why have thunderbird in CentOS no support for PGP?
Why das any program **have** PGP (GnuPG) support?

Both, the software treating text (like Email) and the software which implements OpenPGP will function independently from one another and you can always use the output of one as input to the other. Facilitation is great, but you cannot impose that a mail-client *also* does cryptography. If it can, be happy. End of story.
 
Old 09-03-2022, 12:56 PM   #13
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Hello,
perhaps the installation of thunderbird from the centosplus Repo is successfully.
But
Code:
sudo dnf --enablerepo=centosplus install thunderbird
Fehler: Unbekannte Paketquelle: »centosplus«
How can I integrate the centosplus Repo?

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
 
Old 09-03-2022, 01:09 PM   #14
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Quote:
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Hello,
perhaps the installation of thunderbird from the centosplus Repo is successfully. But
Code:
sudo dnf --enablerepo=centosplus install thunderbird
Fehler: Unbekannte Paketquelle: »centosplus«
How can I integrate the centosplus Repo?
The first hit in Google for "How to enable centosplus repository" is:
https://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalRe...ies/CentOSPlus

And when posting, post in English on this forum; the German error message should also be in English.
 
Old 09-04-2022, 03:47 AM   #15
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Hello,
Quote:
Originally Posted by TB0ne View Post
The first hit in Google for "How to enable centosplus repository" is:
https://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalRe...ies/CentOSPlus
Sorry, don't work.
Code:
$ cat /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Linux-BaseOS.repo.rpmsave
# CentOS-Linux-BaseOS.repo
#
# The #mirrorlist system uses the connecting IP address of the client and the
# update status of each mirror to pick current mirrors that are geographically
# close to the client.  You should use this for CentOS updates unless you are
# manually picking other mirrors.
#
# If the #mirrorlist does not work for you, you can try the commented out
# baseurl line instead.

[baseos]
name=CentOS Linux $releasever - BaseOS
#mirrorlist=http://#mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch=$basearch&repo=BaseOS&infra=$infra
baseurl=http://vault.centos.org/$contentdir/$releasever/BaseOS/$basearch/os/
gpgcheck=1
enabled=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-centosofficial

#additional packages that extend functionality of existing packages 
[centosplus] 
name=CentOS-$releasever - Plus 
#mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch=$basearch&repo=centosplus 
baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/centosplus/$basearch/ 
gpgcheck=1 
enabled=1
includepkgs=thunderbird
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-8
What is wrong here?

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
 
  


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