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Old 01-08-2022, 01:26 AM   #1
Michael Piziak
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Attempting to try out "Enlightenment" distro/environment from a USB thumb drive


I’m currently running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.

I am attempting to “try out” Enlightenment to experience its “Windows manager” environment – attempting to try it out from an 8 .1 Gig PNY USB thumb drive. I assume “Enlightenment” installs or runs off of the Bodhi distribution as I seen the name “Bodhi” somewhere along the line (I think I seen it in the bios startup screen next to “Enlightenment.”

I downloaded both the “regular-enlightenment-latest-x86_64.iso” file and downloaded the “ue17r-i686-1.0-beta3.iso” file from the website. I think the regular file was “version” 21, whereas obviously the other file was probably version 17 of Enlightenment. When using Startup Disk Creator to create the startup disk, from the "regular" file, it got to startup screen but only allowed me to move cursor around. (Then I attempted to install the other ISO (the UE17r file without success as this time it stalled when selecting that file from USB drive and wouldn't go any further). Basically, when I say without success with the "regular" file, I was able to boot from the USB thumb drive into Enlightenment all the way to the startup screen/desktop GUI screen (environment); with the "regular" file it kinda just hung there at final screen and wouldn’t allow me to do anything but see the GUI screen and move the mouse cursor around – I could not click on any folder, file, or icon to try anything out.

Any suggestions or help please in being able to try out Enlightenment from the USB thumb drive. Time to get some sleep and check in here in the morning.

Sincerely,

Michael

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Old 01-08-2022, 10:15 AM   #2
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I’m currently running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.
I am attempting to “try out” Enlightenment to experience its “Windows manager” environment – attempting to try it out from an 8 .1 Gig PNY USB thumb drive. I assume “Enlightenment” installs or runs off of the Bodhi distribution as I seen the name “Bodhi” somewhere along the line (I think I seen it in the bios startup screen next to “Enlightenment.”
Sorry, no...basic research will tell you that Enlightenment is just another window manager, like Gnome, KDE, XFCE, etc. You can install it on Ubuntu with a simple command:
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sudo apt install -V enlightenment
When you log out, you can select Enlightenment as your desktop by selecting it on the login screen by clicking the 'gear' icon. Again, this was easily found on the Ubuntu website.
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I downloaded both the “regular-enlightenment-latest-x86_64.iso” file and downloaded the “ue17r-i686-1.0-beta3.iso” file from the website.
Which website??? Not sure what you downloaded from where or why; Bodhi's latest file is bodhi-6.0.0-64.iso, directly from their site, which includes their fork of Enlightenment by default.
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I think the regular file was “version” 21, whereas obviously the other file was probably version 17 of Enlightenment.
Hard to believe, since the latest version is 25.
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When using Startup Disk Creator to create the startup disk, from the "regular" file, it got to startup screen but only allowed me to move cursor around. (Then I attempted to install the other ISO (the UE17r file without success as this time it stalled when selecting that file from USB drive and wouldn't go any further). Basically, when I say without success with the "regular" file, I was able to boot from the USB thumb drive into Enlightenment all the way to the startup screen/desktop GUI screen (environment); with the "regular" file it kinda just hung there at final screen and wouldn’t allow me to do anything but see the GUI screen and move the mouse cursor around – I could not click on any folder, file, or icon to try anything out.

Any suggestions or help please in being able to try out Enlightenment from the USB thumb drive. Time to get some sleep and check in here in the morning.
If you boot Bodhi Linux from USB and select "Try Bodhi without installing" from the menu....there you go. You're now running the Bodhi fork (moshka) of Enlightenment. When you could run Enlightenment directly in Ubuntu by installing it.
 
Old 01-08-2022, 10:52 AM   #3
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Of course there is a new Bodhi with e25. This is an announcement and link for downloading the ISO in case you want to try it as live session on USB.
https://bodhilinux.boards.net/thread...5-beta-release

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Old 01-08-2022, 11:52 AM   #4
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Of course there is a new Bodhi with e25. This is an announcement and link for downloading the ISO in case you want to try it as live session on USB.
https://bodhilinux.boards.net/thread...5-beta-release
100% correct, but it is important to note that Bodhi uses their own fork of Enlightenment (Moksha), which may not be 100% 'Enlightenment'. Probably close enough, but if the OP just wanted Enlightenment, they can install it on Ubuntu easily with a single command.

Not sure why they can't, if that's their whole goal.
 
Old 01-08-2022, 12:00 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Michael Piziak View Post
I’m currently running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.

I am attempting to “try out” Enlightenment to experience its “Windows manager” environment – attempting to try it out from an 8 .1 Gig PNY USB thumb drive. I assume “Enlightenment” installs or runs off of the Bodhi distribution as I seen the name “Bodhi” somewhere along the line (I think I seen it in the bios startup screen next to “Enlightenment.”
Bodhi Linux uses the moksha window manager which is an Enlightenment 17 fork. Bodhi being based upon Ubuntu naturally also has enlightenment in the Ubuntu repos. Once can install that but it is not recommended at all. In Bodhi Linux 6.0 the ubuntu version of enlightenment is version 0.23.1-4. However, the repo for Bodhi Linux 6.0 has enlightenment version 0.24 and that can or should be able to be safely installed. It will uninstall moksha and one should delete the ~/.e folder before logging into enlightenment after the install. One may also want to look at the installed packages and uninstall any Moksha-specific packages that will not work under enlightenment. If any remains that is. In theory, they should have also been uninstalled when installing enlightenment from bodhi's repo.

However, even this is not recommended. The current version of enlightenment is 0.25.1 and we now have a bodhi beta iso with that version of enlightenment and its own repo for e25 specific packages. See the_waiter post here above for details on the e25 Bodhi ISO.

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I downloaded both the “regular-enlightenment-latest-x86_64.iso” file and downloaded the “ue17r-i686-1.0-beta3.iso” file from the website. I think the regular file was “version” 21, whereas obviously, the other file was probably version 17 of Enlightenment
I have no idea what iso files you are refering to or where you found them. As far as I know there is nothing that on Bodhi's offical website.
 
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Old 01-08-2022, 12:06 PM   #6
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100% correct, but it is important to note that Bodhi uses their own fork of Enlightenment (Moksha), which may not be 100% 'Enlightenment'. Probably close enough, but if the OP just wanted Enlightenment, they can install it on Ubuntu easily with a single command.

Not sure why they can't, if that's their whole goal.
The ISO referred to here, bodhi-6.1.0-e25_beta.iso, does, in fact, contain e25 unmodified by us as well as efl 1.26 also unmodified by us. It is pure enlightenment. Installing from ubuntu's repos on Bodhi linux 6.0 will install an older version of both enlightenment as well as EFL.

As to our standard releases which use our e17 fork Moksha you are right. This is certainly a heavily modified version of e17.

One can find the bodhi-6.1.0-e25_beta.iso on BodhiDevs SourceForge page.
 
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Old 01-08-2022, 12:20 PM   #7
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The ISO referred to here, bodhi-6.1.0-e25_beta.iso, does, in fact, contain e25 unmodified by us as well as efl 1.26 also unmodified by us. It is pure enlightenment. Installing from ubuntu's repos on Bodhi linux 6.0 will install an older version of both enlightenment as well as EFL.

As to our standard releases which use our e17 fork Moksha you are right. This is certainly a heavily modified version of e17.

One can find the bodhi-6.1.0-e25_beta.iso on BodhiDevs SourceForge page.
Thank you for the clarification; I haven't used Bodhi in some time, but I too was confused as to what the OP was talking about, and what they downloaded, from where. Or why (if trying out Enlightenment is their only goal), they didn't just install it on their already-running Ubuntu system.
 
  


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