First of all I apologise for coming off as eleet and without need of help but when an entire thread is about my inability to complete a task and someone says "Newbies shouldn't be allowed anywhere within 4 feet of an Arch Linux CD! You'll thank me for it later..." I assume I am the newbie. "Being called a newbie isn't an insult. It's a fact - that somebody has less knowledge in a certain field and would like to learn something different." then that makes me a newbie and you told me to stay away from Arch but all I was trying to tell you was I think I am skilled enough to use Arch.

Sorry to all the others who contributed real help.

Sorry also for the bad language on my part, I am just easily offended and wound up or so my school mates say.

Not if a n00b has half a brain. I tell you, installing Arch is a scale of magnitude easier than gentoo. I don't think I've had ONE successful gentoo install in about 15 tries. Given how long that damned distro takes, that's a lot of time. In contrast, it took me three attempts to have an Arch system up once I understood X configuration. In fact, none of my base-installs failed. It was only the X that was driving me nuts.

Wow, you can almost copy-paste a Gentoo install from their handbook! How did you manage to mess it up?

That's just it, I don't know. I was following their install directions to the letter and it would fail for me.

*shrugs*

It took me three runs at it but I got Arch and X running on my box in well under half the time I tried to build a gentoo install.

Yeah, thats why I like Arch so much. After install it leaves you to your own devices (ala *BSD, Gentoo, Crux) and with binary packages it's so quick and another big winner, when was the last time _anyone_ found that a package depended on a different version of something they had installed or some crap like that? Unlike apt and rpm, pacman could care less about the versions of software installed and when the machine the packages are all built on is always up-to-date this just doesn't happen.

Love it

Dude, get over it already. It wasn't a personal insult for the hundredth time... duh.