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Old 06-16-2011, 09:36 AM   #16
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No, but you probably don't need it.

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pacman -R madwifi-utils
What the heck, what's wrong with it? I just removed it and nothing changed. In order to install a program, it's makepkg -s in the sub-directory PKGBUILD is in, right?
 
Old 06-16-2011, 09:55 AM   #17
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What the heck, what's wrong with it? I just removed it and nothing changed. In order to install a program, it's makepkg -s in the sub-directory PKGBUILD is in, right?
Yes.

I didn't say that removing madwifi-utils would solve the problem, just that you probably didn't need it.

It seems that you have done some excessive modification of your system and something is seriously broken.

You could try and re-install the basics and see if that works.

Code:
pacman -S base base-devel
 
Old 06-16-2011, 11:17 AM   #18
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Yes.

I didn't say that removing madwifi-utils would solve the problem, just that you probably didn't need it.

It seems that you have done some excessive modification of your system and something is seriously broken.

You could try and re-install the basics and see if that works.

Code:
pacman -S base base-devel
Okay, it said that cron and dcron were conflicting so I allowed it to remove dcron.

Now before it opens KDM, an NVidia screen flashes really quickly, and it's either new or I haven't paid attention to it...

Also, it didn't work, same thing happened, it failed to build it.
 
Old 06-16-2011, 11:44 AM   #19
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I have no idea what modifications that you have made to your install.

You would either have to state exactly what you have done,

starting at the point when you installed,

or just back-up and try again, this time documenting what you do.
 
Old 06-16-2011, 12:14 PM   #20
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I have no idea what modifications that you have made to your install.

You would either have to state exactly what you have done,

starting at the point when you installed,

or just back-up and try again, this time documenting what you do.
I followed this guide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjTTl_9aUXc

also part 2 of it as well.

Also, what free options do I have of backing up my data?

As for what I've done after installation, I installed Gnome-shell *I still have some of the packages leftover after uninstalling the core GNOME3 Packages...* and XFCE4, and removed both of them with the help of a kind individual who copied and pasted the packages I should uninstall. After that I install KDE and KDE-Meta and but KDM in the RC.d modules at the end. I got networking working with

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeekb4hYKE0

this guide ^^^

Before I discovered that guide, I discovered others as well, but didn't work, which involved install MadWifi and MadWifi-Utils... I regularly update pacman with pacman -Syu and the main repositories work perfectly fine. Another question, can I add AUR as a repository so I don't need to compile the package from source?

*I was going to add something else but I forgot*

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Old 06-16-2011, 12:36 PM   #21
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Another question, can I add AUR as a repository so I don't need to compile the package from source?
That is what AUR is, the Arch User Repository, but it contains no binaries.

I would suggest that you read some of the ArchLinux documentation, it is one of the best documented distributions.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR

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The Arch User Repository (AUR) is a community-driven repository for Arch users. It contains package descriptions (PKGBUILDs) that allow you to compile a package from source with makepkg and then install it via pacman.
As for the install guide, I would stick to the arch documentation.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php..._Install_Guide
 
Old 06-16-2011, 02:11 PM   #22
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That is what AUR is, the Arch User Repository, but it contains no binaries.

I would suggest that you read some of the ArchLinux documentation, it is one of the best documented distributions.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR



As for the install guide, I would stick to the arch documentation.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php..._Install_Guide
So you're saying I DO have to reinstall? Aw man... It took me at least 3 days to get Arch stable. The Network card thing was the hardest part, but I suppose if I reinstall and use the same methods as before I'd get it up and running within a day. Still, any way I can list all of my installed things inside of a text file so I can SSH it into my Desktop?
 
Old 06-16-2011, 02:40 PM   #23
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So you're saying I DO have to reinstall? Aw man... It took me at least 3 days to get Arch stable. The Network card thing was the hardest part, but I suppose if I reinstall and use the same methods as before I'd get it up and running within a day. Still, any way I can list all of my installed things inside of a text file so I can SSH it into my Desktop?
I am not saying that you have to, just that I have no idea what you have done to your system where it will not even compile a simple program.

If you do choose to re-install, make sure to back up your /var/cache/pacman/pkg directory so you don't have to waste the bandwidth downloading all the packages.

Also it may help to have a copy of your /var/log/pacman.log and copies of the configurations that you have changed in /etc.
 
Old 06-16-2011, 03:23 PM   #24
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I am not saying that you have to, just that I have no idea what you have done to your system where it will not even compile a simple program.

If you do choose to re-install, make sure to back up your /var/cache/pacman/pkg directory so you don't have to waste the bandwidth downloading all the packages.

Also it may help to have a copy of your /var/log/pacman.log and copies of the configurations that you have changed in /etc.
I've found a bunch of packages I don't want when I used

Code:
 cd /var/cache/pacman/pkg
ls -l|grep xfce
ls -l|grep gnome
I'll remember that directory from now, and I suppose a reinstall may be ideal... but here's another question, can I live without the ability to compile a package? Although I want the experience, I don't have the time to spend an entire day reconfiguring Arch Linux. It runs stable enough with KDE, and sure it has it's problems like making ~/Documents the default directory *I had to change the filename from Documents to Document* but other than that, it works perfectly well, a lot better than when it had WinVista on it. I suppose to summarize it up, do I need the ability to compile and build programs from AUR? It seems to me that majority of things I'll ever need is in the default repositories.
 
Old 06-16-2011, 04:43 PM   #25
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I suppose to summarize it up, do I need the ability to compile and build programs from AUR? It seems to me that majority of things I'll ever need is in the default repositories.
That is for you to decide.

If the default repositories are enough for you, then by all means stick with what you have.
 
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:48 PM   #26
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That is for you to decide.

If the default repositories are enough for you, then by all means stick with what you have.
Thank you, as of now I'm fine with the default repositories because this is an experimental laptop, not one for day-to-day usage. Although, I may reinstall next week though, but as of now, it'll work. Thank you for dedicating your time to helping me fix my problem.
 
Old 06-16-2011, 06:52 PM   #27
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You're welcome. Glad to be of help.

By the way, you can do a

Code:
pacman -Sc
To remove all the packages from /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ that are not currently installed.
 
Old 06-16-2011, 07:54 PM   #28
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You're welcome. Glad to be of help.

By the way, you can do a

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pacman -Sc
To remove all the packages from /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ that are not currently installed.
Out of fear of breaking my system even more, it asks me to remove any unused repositories. What should I do?
 
Old 06-16-2011, 08:30 PM   #29
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Out of fear of breaking my system even more, it asks me to remove any unused repositories. What should I do?
Just say yes, it is harmless.
 
  


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