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Old 01-16-2023, 01:47 PM   #1
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Cool Loc-OS – The Only AntiX Spin you will ever need? :)


Loc-OS – The Only AntiX Spin you will ever need?

https://loc-os.sourceforge.io/

As most will now from my other Topics – Locos por Linux AntiX LXDE Videos show 79MiB RAM used…! Please note that Antix do not support LXDE and never will according to the owner – but LXDE is very easy to install allowing you to ignore those window managers and get a real DE desktop environment – running lighter too.
So this Guy from Locos por Linux has shown them how to do it right – he has 21,000 subscribers. Antix get so, so angry about this. They seem to ignore license which in part states…

Developers that use the GNU GPL protect your rights with two steps: (1) assert copyright on the software, and (2) offer you this License giving you legal permission to copy, distribute and/or modify it.

So instead of putting GNU software in the public domain, we “copyleft” it. Copyleft says that anyone who redistributes the software, with or without changes, must pass along the freedom to further copy and change it. Copyleft guarantees that every user has freedom.

You should find all your licenses here…. /usr/share/common-licenses

I was surprised that my own LXDE setup of Antix-22 Full with over 150 apps at 162MiB RAM used is slightly more efficient than his spin… but it is so nice to have a FULLY functioning FULLY customisable LXDE desktop back again…. With Loc-OS you can have four very different themed flavours to suit all tastes with no effort at all. Classic – I – XP – Neon.
All I need to do is figure out how to get rid of the other horrid themes and that horrid tint panel… and get rid of those crass, infantile Neon colours….Barf out… Then you should be able to get down to 150MiB RAM used at idle having a very efficient Distro-Desktop ready for your workflow.

I have uploaded eight desktop screenshots for you in English language…..

Loc-OS Desktops https://imgur.com/a/xKHoUY3

Note Classic Screenshot below - 184 MiB RAM used..
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Old 01-17-2023, 06:32 AM   #2
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So where is the source code for LOCOS changes to antiX/MX software?

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Old 01-18-2023, 02:38 PM   #3
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So where is the source code for LOCOS changes to antiX/MX software?
Wondered when you would surface

Are you saying that Loc-OS is breaking a License?

Are you saying that you do not accept - Copyleft says that anyone who redistributes the software, with or without changes, must pass along the freedom to further copy and change it. Copyleft guarantees that every user has freedom?

Why don't you supply the full LXDE desktop environment which should be better than Loc-OS?
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Old 01-18-2023, 02:47 PM   #4
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Are you saying that Loc-OS is breaking a License?

Are you saying that you do not accept - Copyleft says that anyone who redistributes the software, with or without changes, must pass along the freedom to further copy and change it. Copyleft guarantees that every user has freedom?
Why get so shirty? Of course GPL gives you the right to create your own spin on AntiX but it also gives anyone else the right to see how you did it. It's open source, remember.
 
Old 01-18-2023, 04:31 PM   #5
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What hazel said.

antiX does support lxde as you know since you use it yourself on a 'pristine' antiX.
Your screenshots clearly show it.
We just don't offer an iso version of lxde.

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Old 01-20-2023, 02:20 PM   #6
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Why get so shirty? Of course GPL gives you the right to create your own spin on AntiX but it also gives anyone else the right to see how you did it. It's open source, remember.
Why get so shirty?…..
Got banned for posting about LXDE on Antix Forum by Anticapitalista – so much for freedom of speech – a fine act of censorship by a supposed anti-capitalist…!

Have you read Animal Farm by George Orwell…?

The original story, a Fairy Tale..? Not the film version paid for and dictated by the CIA; (after tricking, bribing George’s widow for film rights) but Orwell’s original, where in the end you cannot distinguish between the pigs and the humans

So when you have the power to ban and censor you can write….

Locos por Linux is a fraud.
His ‘spin’ is antiX plus lxde.
He does not mention that. In fact he pretends it is based on Debian.
He does not give any recognition to antiX.
Anyone with half a brain can see it is an antiX spin

Now that’s getting shirty...
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Old 01-20-2023, 07:28 PM   #7
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Got banned for posting about LXDE on Antix Forum by Anticapitalista
My understanding is that you just don't listen and then get in huff when someone disagrees with you.

Sounds kinda silly saying it was over a Desktop Environment. No body is giving John Biles spin or Technores spin any grief.

I can be a abrasive dude myself. But the women in my life make sure I stay good natured and polite.
I did not read the rest of your post because I figured it would be full of vitroil, from past experience with your posts.

Bye.
 
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Old 01-21-2023, 10:42 AM   #8
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My understanding is that you just don't listen and then get in huff when someone disagrees with you.
Have you been rolled out to answer for the boss? Or to add your biased opinion disguised as your understanding..?

You know very well as you threw in your insult on Antix banned topic….

Quote on ban.. Who has just been banned? I thought I have seen just technical discussions recently, not even political views on the wrong side as often banned in the past…

even rokytnji had to leave his insult knowing fully that I could not reply – others can judge his character ….

Can the moderator who banned the forum member clarify if the ban is temporary (such as for a few days) or permanent? Thanks.
Anticapitalista: permanent – mainly because the forum software doesn’t offer any other option.
- I would have given a ‘cool off’ ban like in rugby league (10 minutes in the sin-bin), but it isn’t available.


Are we to believe that Anticapitalista is not in control of his own Antix forum…?


Hope that has clarified the Animal Farm analogy…?

Now having taken a look at the accuracy of your statement, let’s take a look at that of Anticapitalista and see if it stands up to even slight scrutiny….?

We note that rokytnji does not deny or even question this quote by Anticapitalista:

Locos por Linux is a fraud.
His ‘spin’ is antiX plus lxde.
He does not mention that. In fact he pretends it is based on Debian.
He does not give any recognition to antiX.
Anyone with half a brain can see it is an antiX spin


So does this “shirty” tirade stand up to even slight scrutiny….?

https://blog.desdelinux.net/en/loc-o...ines-antix-mx/

Quote: What is Loc-OS?
According to official website of «Loc-OS» This independent Respin is described as follows:

"It is a GNU / Linux distribution created by a Urugayo who lives in Brazil. This distribution is intended to be a lightweight and complete distro at the same time, thus being able to revive very old equipment. There is a 32-bit version, especially for computers with 1GB of RAM and there is also another 64-bit version, especially for machines with 2GB of RAM or more.
Many people still have a PC with very low resources and with Loc-Os Linux you can give it another chance before it becomes electronic waste. Loc-OS is not a "Linux from scratch" distro, but is a re-spin of Antix 19.4. Antix is based on Debian, so Loc-OS at its core is a complete and functional Debian 10 Buster with LXDE but without systemd."


Perhaps now we are getting to the real reason for my ban – perhaps locosporlinux was also banned..? For giving accurate information backed up by independent links, screenshots or screencasts?

You only have to take a look at the deliberate misinformation purveyed by the fanboys and moderators on Antix LXDE that is allowed to stand as I am no longer allowed by those in control of Animal Farm to challenge their false statements.

Quote: Moderator – BobC - LXDE works reasonably well, but its memory hungry. I was at 440 mb used with just a terminal running.

Then we get the orchestration coreogragraphed by….? Anticapitalista prompt: I don’t think anyone here in this forum has said that lxde on antiX is slow and sluggish.

They sure had..! - Enter Mods’ Fanboy…

Quote Moddit in September – …LXDE feels very sluggish though – again in November – LXDE makes the I5 Nvidia Tesla box I an using daily feel slow to react after more than two years with a highly customized and semi automated ICEWM.
I was forced to do an LXDE setup a short while ago, the user regretted the change even more than me :-). – Now back to efficiency
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The topic was then closed down with threats my another moderator – Animal Farm orchestrated choreography smear complete

As we all can clearly see there is an orchestrated smear campaign against LXDE on Antix. This is also true of other FOSS-Linux forums but thankfully not here on LQ.

BTW for those who don’t know – my Antix-22 Full LXDE with GIMP, screencast plus video editing and more uses 162MiB RAM at idle and is very fast and efficient when worked making a mockery of other setups. You will not believe how bad some setups are with fan working overtime to stop CPU meltdown. Just view BobC's Antix setup on YT... You can hear the fans at full tilt
 
Old 01-21-2023, 12:03 PM   #9
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Myth -
Quote:
As we all can clearly see there is an orchestrated smear campaign against LXDE on Antix. This is also true of other FOSS-Linux forums but thankfully not here on LQ.

Reality - https://www.antixforum.com/forums/to...de-on-antix-22

Note the date.
Andy's first post at antiX forum was on November 1, 2022

Official Loc-OS forum is here. https://loc-os.sourceforge.io/
No mention of antiX at all.

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Old 01-21-2023, 12:16 PM   #10
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Myth -


Reality - https://www.antixforum.com/forums/to...de-on-antix-22

Note the date.
Andy's first post at antiX forum was on November 1, 2022

Official Loc-OS forum is here. https://loc-os.sourceforge.io/
No mention of antiX at all.
Ah. New and prickly fanboy syndrome.
 
Old 01-21-2023, 12:33 PM   #11
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Ah. New and prickly fanboy syndrome.
No, just a dev setting the record straight,
 
Old 01-21-2023, 01:23 PM   #12
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No, just a dev setting the record straight,
With poorly substantiated claims and judgement about what everyone else needs? Getting "huffy" (great description of the process!) at any discussion instead of being analytical and factual?

I think not.

I think a serious dev could react in a more mature fashion, having been one.

I find it a bit amusing, but then I used to teach High School and saw the effect often. People grow out of it. Well, most people.

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Old 01-21-2023, 01:37 PM   #13
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With poorly substantiated claims and judgement about what everyone else needs? Getting "huffy" (great description of the process!) at any discussion instead of being analytical and factual?

I think not.

I think a serious dev could react in a more mature fashion, having been one.

I find it a bit amusing, but then I used to teach High School and saw the effect often. People grow out of it. Well, most people.
What on earth are you talking about?
 
Old 01-22-2023, 10:30 AM   #14
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Just anticapitalista pretending not to know what’s going on in his own forum, even with his own moderators… Just like Animal Farm.

Quote: Antix Moderator – BobC - LXDE works reasonably well, but its memory hungry. I was at 440 mb used with just a terminal running.
Quote Moddit in September – …LXDE feels very sluggish though – again in November – LXDE makes the I5 Nvidia Tesla box I an using daily feel slow to react after more than two years with a highly customized and semi automated ICEWM.
I was forced to do an LXDE setup a short while ago, the user regretted the change even more than me :-). – Now back to efficiency.


He even pretends not to know of the official video: Loc-OS Linux - Versión Final!!!….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzJJ0V3jyOI

He clearly mentions Antix four times in the first forty seconds…!

Where it clearly states - Probablemente esta sea la distro perfecta para resucitar una PC tostadora. Loc-OS es un re-spin de Antix pero con una cara más bonita y más amigable. En este video te cuento las novedades
In English: This is probably the perfect distro to resurrect a toaster PC. Loc-OS is a re-spin of Antix but with a nicer and friendlier face.

You have to lol as anticapitalista must be the only person on Planet Linux that does not know about his own forum and Distro – a spin of MX Debian – or this video having 16,605 views since Jun 9, 2021. Locos por Linux has 21,300 YT subscribers spreading Antix to 548.3 million Spanish speaking people.

To put it into context - Antix home page video and lead dev of MX guy, runwiththedolphin, has only 5.36K subscribers whilst the slow poke, fan blowing, CPU melter; Antix Moderator BobC has just 18…!

IMHO I would thank Locos por Linux for his valiant efforts to spread the word across Latin America, USA and Spain about this super efficient Antix rather than slag him off. Basic common sense. I have thanked him many times for showing Antix+Lxde using 80MiB RAM at idle but got banned for doing so.
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Old 01-22-2023, 11:05 AM   #15
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Can we get back to the Loc-OS Distro Now?

Can we get back to the Loc-OS Distro Now?
How does it perform...?
Any reviews...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lblaYpwF-ho
5,787 views Premiered Sep 5, 2021 21,700 subscribers

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