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Old 03-05-2024, 02:39 PM   #1
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tumbleweed upgrade


Hi everyone

newbie question: Tumbleweed upgrade

After each update done with "zypper up" there is a not-so-much-clear urge to perform "zypper dup"

Do I have to issue the "zypper dup" command manually?

Are there adverse consequences if I refrain from doing so?

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Old 03-05-2024, 03:03 PM   #2
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Hi everyone
newbie question: Tumbleweed upgrade

After each update done with "zypper up" there is a not-so-much-clear urge to perform "zypper dup" Do I have to issue the "zypper dup" command manually? Are there adverse consequences if I refrain from doing so?
You should read the man page on the zypper command. The "dup" does a distribution upgrade...the "up" only does the current packages. The "dup" for Tumbleweed is (in my opinion) better, since you have the benefit of the Tumbleweed rolling release. Otherwise, you'll stay where you are on a lot of things. Adverse?? Probably not. The "dup" puts in the new, tested snapshot of EVERYTHING, including any changes in repository.
 
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Old 03-05-2024, 06:19 PM   #3
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After each update done with "zypper up" there is a not-so-much-clear urge to perform "zypper dup"
That message is presented to remind you that zypper up on a Tumbleweed installation is officially unacceptable system maintenance. Each TW version, as often as daily, with daily being the continual target, is considered a release of a new distribution, hence application of the term "rolling", and selection of the name, for a weed that the wind rolls into a wad that tumbles across flatlands. Thus, distribution upgrade is the only official path to maintaining a fully upgraded state. Fully upgrading is also possible via YaST, but not via zypper up, which updates existing packages, but does not remove obsolete packages, and does not add new packages.

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Do I have to issue the "zypper dup" command manually?
It can be scripted by those proficient with scripting and various tasks one might associate with the duping process.

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Are there adverse consequences if I refrain from doing so?
There will be eventually if you refrain long enough, possibly on your first boot subsequent to a zypper up.
 
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Old 03-05-2024, 06:30 PM   #4
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That message is presented to remind you that zypper up on a Tumbleweed installation is officially unacceptable system maintenance. Each TW version, as often as daily, with daily being the continual target, is considered a release of a new distribution, hence application of the term "rolling", and selection of the name, for a weed that the wind rolls into a wad that tumbles across flatlands. Thus, distribution upgrade is the only official path to maintaining a fully upgraded state. Fully upgrading is also possible via YaST, but not via zypper up, which updates existing packages, but does not remove obsolete packages, and does not add new packages.

It can be scripted by those proficient with scripting and various tasks one might associate with the duping process.

There will be eventually if you refrain long enough, possibly on your first boot subsequent to a zypper up.
100% agree; much better explanation than mine.
 
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