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Old 06-07-2015, 12:02 PM   #1366
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OpenCL is provided by libclc and OpenMAX by libomxil-bellagio. Both of which are available in my repo. These are fairly small packages though.

I also found out this, the Gallium ilo driver is the new gallium driver for Intel 965 or later GPUs. Also, does anyone know how well the mesa nine d3dx9 state tracker performs?
The ilo driver is not the "official" intel driver and has less features and is not as fast as the classic mesa i965 driver, as far as i know.
The gallium-nine state tracker is pretty cool, but probably only useful for radeon users, because the gap between ilo and nouveau and the official drivers is too big.
 
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Old 06-07-2015, 12:45 PM   #1367
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Every distro has a package manager. Why slackware hasn't it?
 
Old 06-07-2015, 01:22 PM   #1368
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Every distro has a package manager. Why slackware hasn't it?
Slackware has pkgtools and slackpkg. Both are package managers, but slackpkg is able to work with online Slackware repositories.
Please read http://docs.slackware.com/slackwareackage_management because you seem a bit clueless about what Slackware actually is.
 
Old 06-07-2015, 01:55 PM   #1369
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Every distro has a package manager. Why slackware hasn't it?
This is a myth that just won't die. Could you help us to understand where it's still coming from?
 
Old 06-07-2015, 09:24 PM   #1370
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Probably the same sources as always...
 
Old 06-09-2015, 02:17 PM   #1371
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Just throwing it out there, -- inclusion of pulseaudio perhaps?
 
Old 06-09-2015, 03:58 PM   #1372
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Pulse isn't that great and it's usefulness is very limited if you set up dmix properly, which comes with ALSA by default.
 
Old 06-10-2015, 12:35 AM   #1373
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Pulse isn't that great and it's usefulness is very limited if you set up dmix properly, which comes with ALSA by default.
I would like to have an applet that when I am playing a sound I can switch from speaker to HDMI and it just works and sound output moves for one to an other.

can I do this with the current possibilities?
 
Old 06-10-2015, 05:42 AM   #1374
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Well I got my wish and I see it is in current so I am ecstatic when installing the generic kernel it creates a link to generic kernel that way when huge is installed second the link to vmlunuz is still to huge and a separate link to generic.
I run grub2 have since it went into Slackware 14.0 this helps me a ton. because I build low latency desktop and RT_PREEMPT kernels for media stuff. Lilo is wonderful stuff and if I was just a secure server that would only be the way to go. But also this works out great with lilo. because you can upgrade kernels and rebuild your initrd and never have to edit lilo. Great work Pat and the 4.9.2 GCC as I knew that would have to happen watching the software changes. Slackware current is actually making history and keeping the KISS working. Take time and donate. or subscribe to Slackware become part of the future and the history. Keep your Slack. Praise Bob

The new GPT format of set up caught me off gaurd. when installing current the new installer has some new options. Wish there was a little more documentation on it at boot time for the installer if I missed it nothing new.

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Old 06-10-2015, 05:55 AM   #1375
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Unfortunately everyone doesn't need that feature as most PCs out there only have a single sound card, or people use alsa.conf or .asoundrc to direct audio to multiple devices equally using dmix. This explains how to do it:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...ult_sound_card

I don't use Pulse and I use a headset, and two different sound cards, all working just fine.

On another note:

One thing we might wish to look into is upgrading ConsoleKit to either ConsoleKit-0.4.6 or ConsoleKit2-0.9.2 eventually. My ConsoleKit2 package seems to work fairly well, and I have it paired up with loginkit from my repository without any issues.

I am wondering since loginkit provides a compatibility layer for logind (through ConsoleKit2 as a backend) and emulated libsystemd functionality through libloginkit, allow us to use newer packages like upower-0.99.3, and maybe other software that may wish to have these functions.

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The ilo driver is not the "official" intel driver and has less features and is not as fast as the classic mesa i965 driver, as far as i know.
The gallium-nine state tracker is pretty cool, but probably only useful for radeon users, because the gap between ilo and nouveau and the official drivers is too big.
Unfortunately this is true, but the ilo driver is vastly more complete and stable than the original i965-gallium driver which was downright awful. The ilo driver is however progressing due to the fact they want a gallium driver for EGL and Wayland support. In terms of progress, it's far beyond what i965-gallium supported and featured.

There is another driver for intel hardware called vc4, but I don't know exactly what it's used for, though I do have suspicions it's for embedded hardware.

I have heard gallium-nine does work on nouveau and ilo but it's support for nouveau and ilo is limited, but The radeon-gallium drivers do work better for nine. However, do remember nine support is fairly fresh, so it's abilities should tighten up more. Nouveau and ilo both are progressing well so it remains to be seen how well support will end up.

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Old 06-10-2015, 08:34 AM   #1376
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Unfortunately everyone doesn't need that feature as most PCs out there only have a single sound card, or people use alsa.conf or .asoundrc to direct audio to multiple devices equally using dmix. This explains how to do it:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...ult_sound_card
That link doesn't describe how to reroute an existing audiostream to a different output, which is what a4z wants to do, if I understand him correctly.
 
Old 06-10-2015, 09:02 AM   #1377
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I would like to have an applet that when I am playing a sound I can switch from speaker to HDMI and it just works and sound output moves for one to an other.

can I do this with the current possibilities?
yes
with jack or phonon
 
Old 06-10-2015, 09:10 AM   #1378
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Plus, often in some apps that use audio, they'll allow you to configure the default output for audio device if multiple ones exist in the system, so external tools often become useless.

Also, today I tried building upower-0.99.3 and the system did not configure the package for systemd, but actually still compiled correctly. Has anyone tried upower-0.99.3 and found it to work without the need of systemd being in the system on any level?

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Old 06-10-2015, 09:22 AM   #1379
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Hey ReaperX. I'm not understanding how you managed to set up "DMix" for multiple sound devices either. Could you please post more precise instructions? I didn't see them at your ArchWiki link.

I'm not personally at the "I'm all for Pulseaudio to be added" stage yet, but I do plan start using and evaluating it soon. That I'll want to easily to switch between my onboard and USB sound cards is a big reason.
 
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Plus, often in some apps that use audio, they'll allow you to configure the default output for audio device if multiple ones exist in the system, so external tools often become useless.
hes saying that he wants to switch to/from HDMI without stopping the sound
thats the only thing a sound server is useful for, he knows that and is just trolling

actually a sound server can also do low/high/band-pass filtering and much more
but that is actual DSP so PA will never do it (JACK can do it over LADSPA)
 
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