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Old 06-10-2015, 12:58 PM   #1396
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The advantage of including Pulseaudio in Slackware instead of leaving it on SBo is so that the rest of Slackware's applications and libraries can come built with support for it. MPlayer, for example.
the PA protocol is just "write to pipe" (i suspect dbus, haven't confirmed)
there is no performance difference between going through the alsa plugin vs "native"
i tested
 
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Old 06-10-2015, 01:17 PM   #1397
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Yes, but also if you learn to set up ALSA properly, you don't really need PulseAudio.

~/.asoundrc and /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf are very powerful files to have and use, and can do fairly much the same things PulseAudio does, but it takes reading documentation, learning ALSA configuration syntax, and some trial and error before it works and you never have to set it up again.

Pulse isn't even a hard requirement for anything except Skype anyway, so one less package to deal with. And yes, for the networked audio we still have ESounD... all of which are the bare, yet functional, minimums.
And still, Alsa can not reroute audiostreams on the fly, so even if you are a master in configuring it it won't do that, you need something like Pulseaudio for that.

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Old 06-10-2015, 01:21 PM   #1398
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Can we move on now? Good? PA has been discussed. Enough...

We should focus some efforts back here again probably, rather than ask for more toys from Patrick-Claus:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...75/page10.html
 
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:13 PM   #1399
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will check this possible on weekend, even if I would like to spend my computer time with something else

http://slack4dummies.blogspot.se/201...ple-sound.html

http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards

thanks for the links
 
Old 06-10-2015, 04:35 PM   #1400
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Swift!

When this gets released to open source to go along with LLDB and Clang, let's get this one in there and find out if this can really eventually take the place of C (!!!)
 
Old 06-10-2015, 04:47 PM   #1401
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... let's ... find out if this can really eventually take the place of C (!!!)
Sure, as soon as you'll have rewritten the Linux kernel in Swift
 
Old 06-10-2015, 07:50 PM   #1402
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Just a kind reminder not to ask for it, after seeing leo's post, but... fairly much, LLVM/Clang and GCC are interchangeable to a point, but the Linux kernel requires a LOT of patches to build with LLVM/Clang, and it still requires parts of GCC at times.

http://llvm.linuxfoundation.org/index.php/Main_Page

The only problem is LLVM/Clang isn't tested really for building entire sets of software except on FreeBSD, not Linux. For Slackware to gain LLVM/Clang as a default compiler, to paraphrase Jigsaw "Oh yes... there will be patches." and I doubt the people who are contributing at SBo and our leaders here at Slackware wish to hunt down patches in record numbers just to do this.
 
Old 06-11-2015, 12:46 AM   #1403
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:56 AM   #1404
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Swift!

When this gets released to open source to go along with LLDB and Clang, let's get this one in there and find out if this can really eventually take the place of C (!!!)

don't you think that swift without cocoa is similar crippled as dot net without the gui stuff ...

I think it will not take the place of C.
 
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[B] LLVM/Clang and GCC are interchangeable to a point,
not if you are a company like apple for example, than you have a problem with the license of gcc.
 
Old 06-11-2015, 01:21 AM   #1406
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Very true. However, by comparison, llvm/clang is noted to have better read-outs when there are errors and such. I wonder how much of Slackware could be built with llvm/clang without penalty and problem. FreeBSD switched due to licenses as well.

As far as C being replaced? No way. C is the universal coding language.
 
Old 06-11-2015, 03:21 AM   #1407
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lm_sensors 3.3.5 finds sensors on newer boards

Just built an asus H97I-PLUS https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/H9...pecifications/,
3.5.5 sensors-detect found nct6775* in addition to coretemp, finally have fan speeds

Nice to not have the BIOS update/UEFI roadrash too.

Cheers,
http://lm-sensors.org/

* 3.14.29 on a 14.1 base
 
Old 06-12-2015, 12:51 PM   #1408
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I'd like to see Python 2 properly replaced with Python 3 (all Python files included work with Python 3, everything linked against the Python libraries are linked against Python 3). But I don't want that for the next version of Slackware. I want it for the next version after that.

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Old 06-12-2015, 12:53 PM   #1409
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ConsoleKit2-0.9.2 getting added would be welcome. Apparently there are still some lingering issues with ConsoleKit-0.4.2 that still spark some problems with xfce4-power-manager and upower-0.9.23.

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I'd like to see Python 2 properly replaced with Python 3 (all Python files included work with Python 3, everything linked against the Python libraries are linked against Python 3). But I don't want that for the next version of Slackware. I want it for the next version after that.
Is that even possible??? I know a few packages still use Python2 exclusively and haven't added Python3 support yet (I could be wrong though).

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Old 06-12-2015, 01:48 PM   #1410
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A newer version of Ruby would be great. The current stable version is 2.2.2. I removed the default ruby-1.9.3_p484 and installed 2.2.2.
 
  


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