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Old 01-16-2024, 11:04 AM   #1
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Wayland & GRUB Question


Hi There,


I'm curious, lately, on my Slackware 15.x -current box, Wayland is super fast compared to X. I'm wondering when X will be replaced by Wayland, as it seems to perform much better than X these days.


It also would appear that Lilo will be replaced by GRUB, is there any indication of what that timeline looks like?


Asking for a friend : ) Me mostly curious what you mighty Slackware experts think.


Thanks for what you all do here.


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Old 01-16-2024, 11:13 AM   #2
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My guess is GRUB will be adopted quicker, than X11 being dropped in Slackware. Yes Fedora is the first to outright drop X11; but not all other distros followed suit. As for GRUB I am fairly confident it will be the default and only option for 15.1
 
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Is there a simple way to make Wayland the default instead of X?
 
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just type starkwayland after you login, or if you are set to runlevel4 make sure startkayland instead of startx is invoked; but you will be limited to KDE5 or GNOME via third party , or if you want a WM, hyperland, sway.
 
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Good stuff, thanks. I have been starting it the manual way of startkwayland, was curious when starting runlevel4 : )
 
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Good stuff, thanks. I have been starting it the manual way of startkwayland, was curious when starting runlevel4 : )
If you use sddm to login, on the bottom left there's an option to choose the session. Select "plasma Wayland" and login as usual
 
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Hi There,


I'm curious, lately, on my Slackware 15.x -current box, Wayland is super fast compared to X. I'm wondering when X will be replaced by Wayland, as it seems to perform much better than X these days.
As for KDE, as of KDE6, Wayland will be default and replace X, while X will remain a legacy option.
As for Slackware, it's difficult to say, but assumingly when it includes KDE6. Assuming Slackware stick with the default release choices of software packages, as it tends to do.

I had a hard time believing Slackware would ever replace or ditch Lilo, but reading the posting of BDFL and related posts, the change might be coming already in 15.1?

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My guess is GRUB will be adopted quicker, than X11 being dropped in Slackware. Yes Fedora is the first to outright drop X11; but not all other distros followed suit. As for GRUB I am fairly confident it will be the default and only option for 15.1
Let's say Slackware moves to KDE6 and Wayland becomes default. Is there any reason to think/assume X will be removed from Slackware because of that?
 
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Let's say Slackware moves to KDE6 and Wayland becomes default. Is there any reason to think/assume X will be removed from Slackware because of that?
No - and even while Fedora "dropped" X11, it is more like they just removed the references to X11 - but as of now I think it is still included, and if you want to use X11 over Wayland technically you can. Same with KDE6 - they "dropped" support for X11 , but you can still use it for now - So I suspect Slackware would be similar in that regards , X11 will still be there. As for KDE6, I'm not too confident it will be in --current even when it hits a much more stable / point release. I suspect 15.1 will be using KDE5.


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Also when I mean KDE6 is "dropping" support, technically they are just defaulting to Wayland but AFAIK you can still use an X11 session - and probably will be for the foreseeable future, its just that at some point you will be on your own eventually in terms of if you run into any issues down the road.

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