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Old 05-14-2003, 03:24 PM   #1
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im sorry i know ive made a thread on this subject before so plz dont kill me ok i dont know if this is a hardware problem or a software problem(well cant be a software ploblem since there's nothing on my hard drive yet. ok my mother board has a built in video card thingy thats built into the board and i have a voodoo 3 card that i plugged in. ok the prob is i plug in the voodoo 3 card and i plug my good monitor into that and then i plug my kinda old monitor thats still works into the one thats connected to the board. well when i start up the display that actually shows the bios info / startup is the one connected to the voodoo 3, shoudln't it be the one tahts connected to the board??? dosn't that make more sence? but the one thats connected the board dosn't show anything at all??? i mean do i have to wait till after i install slack and then configure my computer for 2 monitors before both work at the same time? im sorry i guess this is more of a hardware based question. but to the guy that also has 2 screens like me do u have any input and were did u say i could get xinarma or something like that??? any input/help would be greatly appriciated
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Old 05-14-2003, 04:04 PM   #2
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most mobo's like that only use the internal device as a fallback, i.e. check AGP slot first, then try PCI, and only after those have failed initialise the onboard component. most BIOS's will allow you to set a preference for either AGP or PCI, like mie does as i run a dual head, one on PCI, one on AGP. I have a socket A mobo, which i'm lead to believe will just disable the onboard video completely IF an alternative video output is found. just disable it permanently. I don't know if this is actually true or not, but i can understand why that might be the case.
 
Old 05-14-2003, 04:19 PM   #3
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yeah i think ur right about that, im also using a socket A combo. well i found the xinerama how to but it just left me very very very confused so well yeah i'll go try messing round w/ what it said. u said i could disable the whole cutting off the on board one thru the bios right?
 
Old 05-14-2003, 09:05 PM   #4
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k tried messing w/ xinarama and that got me no where just more confused. and i got another problem i just got a 60 gb hardrive and tried to put slack on it got it on but there's a problem with my lilo i installed it on the hardrive and told it to boot. but it dosnt' like my computer checks and reads all the devices like cd and floppy and say s failed then it gets to harddrive and it says ok and then just stops nothing linux dosn't load??? i did a lil tinkering and i got this thing that says lilo has a problem w/ stuff thats over 11.. somethign long and my hardrive i slike 71.. something long so is that the prob?? will i have to just make a lilo boot disc??? thats kinda of a hassel if u ask me what if i loose the lilo disc then im screwed . well if anyone can provide any input on either of my probs i'd be very greatful oh and there's nothing in my bios about selecting which video card i prefer and its still only loading the voodoo instead of the on board vga y cant it jus use both lol is that so much to ask???
 
Old 05-14-2003, 09:30 PM   #5
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I am not an expert on using two monitors at the same time because I have never done it, but I think that for that to work you need to actually need to have 2 Video Cards. 1 AGP + 1 PCI or use some of the dual headed cards like some Nvidia, matrox, and ATI cards that allow you to connect 2 monitors to the card.

I am not sure, so don't take my words as facts.
 
Old 05-14-2003, 09:37 PM   #6
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if ur right then im majorly out of luck gonna go cry now what bout the lilo problem any suggestions?
 
Old 05-14-2003, 10:05 PM   #7
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k wel ive pretty much giving up on the whole two monitor thing. since i think that other guys right that i'd have to get a seperate video card instad of using a videocard and onboarg agp so bah is all i have to say... but bout the lilo problem any input??? i made a floppy and that works fine but what if i loose the floppy? then what use the boot disk right? but what if i loose the boot disk two??? thats y i wanted to put it on the harddrive cause thats what i did with my 6gb hardrive and it worked fine i dunno why its not workign with my 60gb hard drive its a sad sad day for synth
 
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Is the V3 AGP or PCI? What's the onboard one,
exactly?

Have you got motherboard details handy?
Maybe it's just a bios-setup problem.

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Old 05-14-2003, 10:20 PM   #9
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the onboard one is an AGP 8mb one thats made by Sis
the video card is a voodoo 3 16mb one made by 3dfx, n im not sure how to tell the diff between agp n pci, its on the brown thing not the white one if that hleps at all???
 
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That's presumably only one brown
slot as opposed to a few white ones?

That would make it AGP, too ... I don't
know about having several AGP devices,
but my guess is that it won't work, after all :/

Sorry ...


Cheers,
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Old 05-15-2003, 12:25 AM   #11
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I don't see why it wouldn't work. If the devices show up in, for example, lspci, then you can use the XF86Config file to indicate which device is which card. I don't think XF86Config has any code limiting it to a single device, AGP or otherwise (it would be very short sighted to put such a limit). The only limitation is likely to be in the MB's BIOS, and if it's there, there's not much hope.
With your Voodoo card installed, run the command, "lspci" and post its ouput.
 
Old 05-15-2003, 02:43 AM   #12
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my understanding is that as the mobo will really only have one AGP channel, inserting a card into an additional AGP slot on the mobo will require directly disabling the one board AGP. Adding a pci board shouldn't affect it at all, as it's just another card on the pci bus. I've not seen if that's the case but it makes sense to me...
 
Old 05-15-2003, 06:47 AM   #13
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yep the voodoo 3 is an agp and so is the onboard one so i guess that means yall are right and they cancel each other out??? or somethinglike that cause when i boot like beforeit starts up it detects it and says Voodoo 3 16mb agp and then it goes to the regular bios start up screen so i have no clue?
 
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well lspci will show you if it still there, but i expect it has been completely disabled as you can't share the same bus id, which is logical enough.
 
Old 05-15-2003, 08:13 AM   #15
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so basically i cant have two monitors unless i buy a pci video card bah that sux oh wellz, where do i type in the lspci command??? when im logged on as root? and dose anyone have any info on the lilo problem?
 
  


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