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Old 07-20-2022, 06:08 PM   #4606
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Ugh. This is going to be brutal, isn't it? When are these patches supposed to hit?
It would appear "they" are still working on the Retbleed problem. As of the moment nothing new on the subject has been posted (that I've found).
 
Old 07-20-2022, 06:11 PM   #4607
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It would appear "they" are still working on the Retbleed problem. As of the moment nothing new on the subject has been posted (that I've found).
True. Granted, the thing was from phoronix, but the early numbers they were testing weren't awesome.
 
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Old 07-21-2022, 08:06 AM   #4608
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Ugh. This is going to be brutal, isn't it? When are these patches supposed to hit?
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True. Granted, the thing was from phoronix, but the early numbers they were testing weren't awesome.
There has been some trouble with the 5.18.13 update and I found this among the many messages related to the problems. It is dated yesterday, but as of the moment a new -rc has not been released. I've put the bit about Netbleed in italics.
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Ok, I think we have a few of the retbleed patches in here that shouldn't
be in there yet.
Let me flush them out and then put out a new -rc
tomorrow with this all fixed up. Sasha and I got things crossed, I'll
blame the heat here in Europe and me attempting to take a few days
off......
https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/...7.2/05818.html

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Old 07-21-2022, 01:47 PM   #4609
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Let's skip right to the third release candidate for the 5.18.13 update.

5.18.13-rc3, with 227 patches, https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/...7.2/07140.html

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.....Responses should be made by Sat, 23 Jul 2022 18:02:22 +0000.
Anything received after that time might be too late.....

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Old 07-21-2022, 01:53 PM   #4610
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Kernel updates 5.15.56, 5.10.132, 5.4.207, 4.19.253, 4.14.289 and 4.9.324 are now available at, https://www.kernel.org/

The change logs,

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...ngeLog-5.15.56

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...geLog-5.10.132

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...ngeLog-5.4.207

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...geLog-4.19.253

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...geLog-4.14.289

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...ngeLog-4.9.324

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Old 07-22-2022, 03:49 AM   #4611
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Kernel 5.18.13
 
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Old 07-22-2022, 05:46 AM   #4612
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Kernel 5.18.13
The tarball and change log can be found at, https://www.kernel.org/
 
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Old 07-22-2022, 05:53 AM   #4613
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Year 2022, Round 45.

Another batch of updates has been scheduled for release on Sunday, 24 July 2022, at approximately 09:00 GMT. If no problems are found while testing the release candidates, they might be available sometime on Saturday (depending on your time zone).

These two contain the "Retbleed" patches.

The details:

5.18.14-rc1, with 70 patches, https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/...7.2/07798.html

5.15.57-rc1, with 89 patches, https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/...7.2/07901.html

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Old 07-23-2022, 06:13 AM   #4614
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Kernel updates 5.18.14 and 5.15.57 are now available at, https://www.kernel.org

The change logs,

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...ngeLog-5.18.14

https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...ngeLog-5.15.57
 
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Old 07-23-2022, 06:48 AM   #4615
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Among other things, this 5.10.y update contains the "Retbleed" patches.

5.10.133-rc1, with 148 patches, https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/...7.2/08891.html

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Old 07-23-2022, 07:07 AM   #4616
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Among other things, this 5.10.y update contains the "Retbleed" patches.

5.10.133-rc1, with 148 patches, https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/...7.2/08891.html
Code:
diff linux-5.18.13/.config linux-5.18.14/.config   
3c3
< # Linux/x86 5.18.13 Kernel Configuration
---
> # Linux/x86 5.18.14 Kernel Configuration
354,356d353
< CONFIG_RETPOLINE=y
< CONFIG_CC_HAS_SLS=y
< CONFIG_SLS=y
507a505,513
> CONFIG_CC_HAS_SLS=y
> CONFIG_CC_HAS_RETURN_THUNK=y
> CONFIG_SPECULATION_MITIGATIONS=y
> CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION=y
> CONFIG_RETPOLINE=y
> CONFIG_RETHUNK=y
> CONFIG_CPU_UNRET_ENTRY=y
> CONFIG_CPU_IBPB_ENTRY=y
> CONFIG_SLS=y
8229d8234
< CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION=y
 
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Old 07-23-2022, 09:34 AM   #4617
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Just built 5.18.14 with:
Code:
* Mitigations for speculative execution vulnerabilities
*
Mitigations for speculative execution vulnerabilities (SPECULATION_MITIGATIONS) [Y/n/?] (NEW) 
  Remove the kernel mapping in user mode (PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION) [Y/n/?] y
  Avoid speculative indirect branches in kernel (RETPOLINE) [Y/n/?] y
    Enable return-thunks (RETHUNK) [Y/n/?] (NEW) 
      Enable UNRET on kernel entry (CPU_UNRET_ENTRY) [Y/n/?] (NEW) 
  Enable IBPB on kernel entry (CPU_IBPB_ENTRY) [Y/n/?] (NEW) 
  Enable IBRS on kernel entry (CPU_IBRS_ENTRY) [Y/n/?] (NEW) 
  Mitigate Straight-Line-Speculation (SLS) [Y/n/?] y
The build time went up from 6m19.851s to 6m36.141s, which is a 4.7% increase.
 
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Old 07-23-2022, 10:05 AM   #4618
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Just built 5.18.14
The build time went up from 6m19.851s to 6m36.141s, which is a 4.7% increase.
I'm curious to know your hardware
With my Ryzen 7:
make -j17 15124,96s user 1624,00s system 1536% cpu 18:10,43 total
 
Old 07-23-2022, 05:09 PM   #4619
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Just built 5.18.14 with:
Code:
* Mitigations for speculative execution vulnerabilities
*
Mitigations for speculative execution vulnerabilities (SPECULATION_MITIGATIONS) [Y/n/?] (NEW) 
  Remove the kernel mapping in user mode (PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION) [Y/n/?] y
  Avoid speculative indirect branches in kernel (RETPOLINE) [Y/n/?] y
    Enable return-thunks (RETHUNK) [Y/n/?] (NEW) 
      Enable UNRET on kernel entry (CPU_UNRET_ENTRY) [Y/n/?] (NEW) 
  Enable IBPB on kernel entry (CPU_IBPB_ENTRY) [Y/n/?] (NEW) 
  Enable IBRS on kernel entry (CPU_IBRS_ENTRY) [Y/n/?] (NEW) 
  Mitigate Straight-Line-Speculation (SLS) [Y/n/?] y
The build time went up from 6m19.851s to 6m36.141s, which is a 4.7% increase.
shrug,
if your processor was released in 2021/22 then the above will most likely not affect CPU performance. It is easy to check what affects cpu and which mitigations are needed.
 
Old 07-23-2022, 06:50 PM   #4620
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Linux x86 32-bit Is Vulnerable To Retbleed But Don't Expect It To Get Fixed.
Michael Larabel. 23 July 2022 at 07:39 PM EDT
While relevant Intel and AMD processors have been mitigated for the recent Retbleed security vulnerability affecting older generations of processors, those mitigations currently just work for x86_64 kernels and will not work if running an x86 (32-bit) kernel on affected hardware. But it's unlikely to get fixed unless some passionate individual steps up as the upstream developers and vendors have long since moved on to just caring about x86_64......
The full story can be found here, https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-x86-Retbleed

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