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Old 08-29-2021, 04:34 AM   #8281
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Either way, other distros don't overwrite existing perms, and I refuse to run a less secure system by running named as root user...
And I didn't say you should. If your argument was that slackware should be configured to use a 'named' user as shipped then I'd be inclined to agree. I simply pointed out that it's the default behaviour of 'tar' rather than "a brain-dead install script" that's causing your issue.

Actually thinking on it a little more, I'm leaning towards the idea that Pat should specify --no-overwrite-dir on tar in the upgradepkg script: it would sort out your issue, but also it would stop broken packages clobbering the permissions of /usr/bin or other system directories, which has been known to happen sometimes.

As I said though: it would mean that any intentional directory/permission changes if future would need to be coded into doinst.sh scripts... but maybe that's not a common enough occurrence for it to be a consideration.
 
Old 08-29-2021, 02:27 PM   #8282
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Thanks for this, i think , one of the best "LAST MINUTE" , updates. , becaus its mantained and patched frequently.

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l/qt5-5.15.3_20210826_21ea9c12-i586-1.txz: Upgraded.
Switched to the patched qt5 from https://invent.kde.org/qt/qt/qt5.git.
Huge thanks to Heinz Wiesinger for the script to create a release tarball.
Likely this fixes many security issues.
(* Security fix *)
 
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Old 08-29-2021, 07:33 PM   #8283
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Because now , we are using qt5 from kde git , we can try upgrade mariadb again to 10.6.x , cause kde branch patch the issue from this.
 
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Old 08-30-2021, 03:16 AM   #8284
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about changes:
Classic Slackware
conservative changes in security politic (no changes)
actual software

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Old 08-30-2021, 03:21 AM   #8285
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Because now , we are using qt5 from kde git , we can try upgrade mariadb again to 10.6.x , cause kde branch patch the issue from this.
Did you are really sure that no other software than Qt5 is affected by version reporting changes from MariaDB 10.6.x ?

I for one, I have the suspicion that there are other software affected, even we do not know yet which ones.
 
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Old 08-30-2021, 09:56 AM   #8286
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And you are very sure other software affected ?

Thats the point of """WE CAN TRY""" , in the forum i read problems only in qt5 and obiously kde apps , but thinking in rc1 , is late to try test , and is time to make fixes.

Its funny when some one in same phrase say "i suspicious...but we do not know"

We can skip mariadb 10.6 for now , but not forever , im not interested on this update, im not use mariadb more than the apps linked to this.


The next choose is what happen with linux kernel , 5.13.13 EOL soon for 5.13 , but 5.14 is out , not sure if confused but i read something arround removing IDE DRIVERS , probably this not good ,im not have ide in my machines but probably some servers use it , or old machines.

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Old 08-30-2021, 10:13 AM   #8287
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@LuckyCyborg

And you are very sure other software affected ?

Thats the point of """WE CAN TRY""" , in the forum i read problems only in qt5 and obiously kde apps , but thinking in rc1 , is late to try test , and is time to make fixes.

Its funny when some one in same phrase say "i suspicious...but we do not know"

We can skip mariadb 10.6 for now , but not forever , im not interested on this update, im not use mariadb more than the apps linked to this.
Well, probably it's, because I doubt that only Qt5 checks the MySQL version compliance.

I believe that there are software which uses MySQL much more than Qt, for example the big portal engines. That's WHY I said that I suspect that NOT every other software is NOT affected.

For example, did you tested Moodle or Chamilo if they works with that MariaDB?

Those are software big like Plasma5, and they are in fact sites.

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The next choose is what happen with linux kernel , 5.13.13 EOL soon for 5.13 , but 5.14 is out , not sure if confused but i read something arround removing IDE DRIVERS , probably this not good ,im not have ide in my machines but probably some servers use it , or old machines.
They removed the legacy IDE drivers, which given you the devices like /dev/hda and so on.

BUT today everybody uses the modern libata drivers for the IDE hard drives, which drivers gives you devices like /dev/sda and so on.

Even the Slackware moved to libata drivers many years ago, on Slacwkare 13.0 if I remember right.

There is nothing to scare you there, unless you still use Slackware 12.2 - but I doubt that the kernel 5.14 could be even built on this particular distro release.

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Old 08-30-2021, 12:40 PM   #8288
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Add libelogind.so.0 to aaa_libraries

After building procps-ng with elogind support libprocps.so links against libelogind.so.0, which prevents a bunch of important system tools (like ps, pidof, pgrep/pkill, and also sysctl) from running. As a consequence, quite a lot of the /etc/rc.d/ scripts fail to work, potentially leaving a lot of processes for the final killall5 to reap. On the other hand, elogind itself is optional for procps-ng - if it is not running, ps just shows fewer fields, and other tools seem to ignore it completely.

elogind package is still marked as "recommended" in the tagfile, and really though most of the Slackers are desktop users - where either elogind or systemd is a strong requirement these days - a headless server wouldn't have much (or, well, any) use for it.

I have checked packages in a/ap/l/n (the "headless" bunch, for lack of a better name) to see other dependencies on libelogind. I have spotted the following:

- dbus (optional but useful) links to libelogind.so.0 directly
- there is an optional PAM module in pam package (required) which doesn't make sense without elogind running
- udisks2 and polkit - mostly GUI staff but elogind support is optional in those

All in all I *think* rather than promoting elogind to a full "required" package it is better to include /lib64/libelogind.so.0 into aaa_libraries instead.

This would make a "minimal" Slackware install to be one package "thinner", and make upgrading from previous versions smoother (e.g., no elogind previously installed -> procps-ng is updated -> ps and pidof don't work -> puzzled sysadmin).


PS Tried reporting this over e-mail but alas this communication channel seems quite dead at the moment.
 
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Old 08-30-2021, 02:00 PM   #8289
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ntfs-3g

As Jean-Pierre André just posted:
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The new stable release of NTFS-3G and ntfsprogs is available which includes important security fixes. The security advisory is available at https://github.com/tuxera/ntfs-3g/se...q759-8j5v-q5jp The NTFS-3G project globally aims at providing a stable NTFS driver. The project's advanced branch has specifically aimed at developing, maturing, and releasing features for user feedback prior to feature integration into the project's main branch.
The project has migrated on GitHub and the new release can be downloaded from https://github.com/tuxera/ntfs-3g/re.../tag/2021.8.22. Changelog is available at https://github.com/tuxera/ntfs-3g/wi...elease-History
 
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Old 08-30-2021, 04:12 PM   #8290
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A little catch up with updates on Vim ?

Vim 8.2.3388
https://github.com/vim/vim/archive/r....2.3388.tar.gz
 
Old 08-30-2021, 06:26 PM   #8292
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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg View Post

They removed the legacy IDE drivers, which given you the devices like /dev/hda and so on.

BUT today everybody uses the modern libata drivers for the IDE hard drives, which drivers gives you devices like /dev/sda and so on.

Even the Slackware moved to libata drivers many years ago, on Slacwkare 13.0 if I remember right.

There is nothing to scare you there, unless you still use Slackware 12.2 - but I doubt that the kernel 5.14 could be even built on this particular distro release.
Heplfull ! Did mean ~10Mb ~30Mb very old MFM IDE era. :-)

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Also say goodby to old chip's, controllers, motherboards.. t. only IDE connector's ?
No, because it have work with libata. So from example Pentium D/Celeron/AMD k8.

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Old 08-31-2021, 06:55 AM   #8293
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suggestion of split package vulkan-icd-loader from vulkan-sdk
by update mesa to 21.2.1, libvulkan.so.1 became a dependence of /usr/lib64/dri/*_dri.so,
this make vulkan-sdk not an optional package anymore, and vulkan-icd-loader became essential.
it's no need install a 130MB package just for a 367kb file.
thanks.
Lately I experienced at times an extremely poor performance when accessing Linuxquestions via Firefox. I also noticed glxtest error messages on the console. Installing libvulkan.so.1 from the vulkan-sdk resolved these problems.

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Old 08-31-2021, 08:28 AM   #8294
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Lately I experienced at times an extremely poor performance when accessing Linuxquestions via Firefox. I also noticed glxtest error messages on the console. Installing libvulkan.so.1 from the vulkan-sdk resolved these problems.
Well, probably is time for us to become habituated with idea that vulkan-sdk is part of the graphics stack and not some "optional" package.

Times change, World changes, Slackware changes too...
 
Old 08-31-2021, 08:36 AM   #8295
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Well, probably is time for us to become habituated with idea that vulkan-sdk is part of the graphics stack and not some "optional" package.

Times change, World changes, Slackware changes too...
That's why evolution happens.
 
  


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