I have merged the two Nepomuk threads as they cover the same ground.

Just as well . . . people need to be able to find the info under all of these terms:

nepomukservices
nepomuk
desktop indexing
strigi

and merging the threads will accomplish that.


I *had* searched first, but I was looking for "nepomukservices" at the time. That was what was showing up in 'top', eating my cycles and stealing my RAM. I didn't know that there was something called "nepomuk", so I hadn't searched for that.

GaHillBilly

That is something that has been an issue with any search since I first went on the net - you have to know what you're searching for before you can search for it. he person that creates a search engine that will find thing with only vague terms such as "Im looking for an orange thing with a bit on the top like a stick" will rule the world!

I haven't stopped the services, but I've stopped the Nepomuk Strigi irritating pop-up notification thingy balloon. Suspending...Resuming...Suspending...Resuming...Suspending...Resuming...Suspending...Resuming...Susp ending...Resuming...Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!!!

I'll add to the flame here...It only took about 2 logins for me to be annoyed with this seemingly useless function. I'll admit, some people may find this a useful tool, but I found it pointless...

The real problem seems to be Neomuk, which apparently adds to, and complicates, what Strigi does. And, as far as I could find out, Neomuk doesn't do ANYTHING useful yet.

It's seems to be just like some of Microsoft's new *revolutionary* services, which are going to change the world, real soon now, but right now, just make a mess of your system. In fact, KDE4 reminds me more of Vista than I can safely say on a forum like this. Fortunately, KDE is ONLY a GUI + apps, and still rests on a solid Linux / Slackware foundation.

GaHillBilly

Can you include Akonadi? All of them are off here and KDE 4.2.4 work without problems. Ok, they have utility, but we should need the option to even remove them if needed/desired and KDE should keep going without them... Let's see how voracious 4.3.x will be when released.

I solved all of these problems much easier ... did not install KDE series.

=]

Look what I found at work and try to figure my weekend

Thanks Alien BOB.

I did a fresh install on my wife's PC with Slackware 13.0. She had been running
KDE in 12.1, so reluctantly we left it on. After a week of fighting all the new bugs
and useless junk in KDE, I did another fresh install to get rid of the whole KDE series.

While doing it, my RSS feed from Alien's Slackware packages announced the LXDE
updates you posted above. I did not install package series E, KDE, KDEI, T or Y.

This solved the longer than ever startup time, huge waste of memory, and basically
crippled KDE. My wife only uses 4 apps anyway ...

I then installed LXDE, and with very little configuring, she has all she needs in a
desktop environment; and I have none of the KDE headaches that now plague this
forum like never before.

You're lucky. Mine (I) needs dual boot on her desk. I still sometimes mess with her and comment that bloat at lilo. I can hear she screaming when I'm running to take the bus to work

At lunch she always have her revenge, and at night everything is ok again =]

In addition to disabling from within System Settings, I tried the following:

chmod -x /usr/bin/nepomuk
chmod -x /usr/bin/strigi

What I did to reduce cpu usage was to

1.
copy nepomukserver from /usr/bin to /usr/local/bin.

2.
created a shell script in /usr/bin called nepomukserver containing just this line -

3.
made it executable


Now it appears to take a lower slice of the cpu than all the other processes. Doesn't do anything about memory of the 2gb files in .kde. For the later I might try creating a soft link to .kde/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main

Try taking nepomuk from /usr/share/autostart/ (there's other stuff too!).

I've intentionally revived this thread as this issue has a bigger picture that needs to be address (IMO). Those who say "simply turn 'them' off are missing the point. If it is possible to DISABLE these services and have KDE run fine without them, then why is it not possible to REMOVE them altogether? Some posts even mention how "[they] don't use the services and the services 'run happily in the background'". So... "out-sight-out-of-mind" ... This way 'we' get all your personal data neatly indexed and packaged for 'our' easy access in one location and 'you' can happily remain ignorant. Isn't the point of Linux freedom of choice and transparency? If not... why not just use Windows? ('cause it's not free?).

Case in point. I looked into compiling KDE without Akonadi/Nepomuk/Strigi. Compiling kdebase-runtime has 3 dependencies and strigi is one of them. Yet in 'system settings' I can turn off strigi?!? Kind of makes you wonder if "turning it off" really "turns it off".

So, if anyone has a way of compiling/installing KDE without this 'Big Brother' plague silently infecting Linux, please share. Thank you so much.