Have you tried AisleRiot? I like it better than kpat.
http://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.../?search=aisle

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So plasma 5 means KDE 5 will be in slackware? What's left after that to add or will it be ready for a beta or RC release?

look here http://www.slackware.com/changelog/c...php?cpu=x86_64

Nobody knows for sure since there isn't a publicly available todo list for 15.0, but many suspect it will also include the gtk3-based xfce, either 4.14 or the soon-to-be-released 4.16. I also imagine since we're close to kernel 5.10 being released, which has already been announced to be the next LTS kernel, that will probably be included as well.

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I hope pat does with the CSD and include that optional package that makes CSD optional for 4.16 like how he's including a way to make pulseaudio optional. That's if he includes 4.16. And going to kernel 5.10 makes sense because slackware 15 should have the latest and greatest LTS kernel.

I feel that that pure ALSA was a Tactical Mistake from the Slackware part...

There is no day under the sun for someone to not wake-up wanting $something optional like how he's including a way to make pulseaudio optional.

What? LinuxPAM is not optional? Kerberos is not optional? elogind is not optional? CSD is not optional? Whatever is not optional?

Heck, how many development paths should Slackware take simultaneous, people?

Honestly, probably is better they to nuke that pure ALSA, just for not giving to people strange ideas...

I don't see an issue with having a choice. It's like saying we might as well cut our losses and switch to systemd because everyone else is using it. If pat doesn't want to include making CSD optional, I won't hold it against him.

Again a normal user is not able to shutdown the machine. Restoring Alienbob's mozjs68 didn't help...

It doesn't have the solver like KPat does. But I won the first game of Freecell..... Not sure that I like Aisleriot.

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No issue here, but to be honest when VTown hit /testing I redownloaded all of --Current and did a fresh install. I can also restart - however the only thing I haven't tried is sleep and hibernate, but to be honest I never utilized such features ever.

And how to install it ? I think that saving my /home, making a new installation, and copying my /home back will be better and create less garbage in the system. I wish I could have some suggestion on this from the experts and more used to all this.

Halla - freakin'-lulliah! Thank you Patrick, HUGE Thank You, Eric. Just having any real evidence of major progress is priceless. What a relief!

To anyone having blank screen issues, I suggest you check VT7 (Alt-F7) or sddm.conf before you alter/upgrade sddm. Some hardware won't make the jump automatically from VT1 to VT7.

Re: Pure ALSA -
Anyone who has cared to follow ALSA related posts knows I like ALSA and despise Pulseaudio because it made my audio life a lot harder, especially at first. However I have to mildly agree with Lucky Cyborg on this issue that the /extra/PureALSA option has outlived it's benefit/cost evaluation. Eric and others have posted excellent configs that essentially send Pulseaudio to go sulk in it's room and only come out to play when absolutely needed for some recalcitrant applications. This is FAR easier to maintain and use, and IMHO the wise choice for Slackware development. It is the KISSier choice.

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Huh, nobody here questioning the functionality of Pipewire?

For those who does not know yet, it is worth to be called something like Pulse Audio/Video and gives you the ability not only use audio streams like PulseAudio, but also to have Video streams.

It is used by Chromium, Firefox and things like TeamViewer for a feature named "desktop sharing" and also it is heavy used by Plasma5 for various things like remote desktop on Wayland, and even for little fancy things like the taskbar thumbnails.

Yes, the Wayland is so secure that even the Big Boss KWin have no clue about the windows content or even what key codes receives, then it capture the windows content via a video stream, then sending those video streams (no different of the ones from WebRTC) to the thumbnails area.

The bad news is that the Pipewire daemon needs a special startup after user login or at least when the DE starts, then this daemon should be killed just when the user logout or at least when DE shutdown. Just like PulseAudio, thought...

The even more bad news is that the Pipewire from VTown is now just for presence. Its setup is not functional, then a part of the Plasma5 features (at least, under Wayland) aren't' functional.

Nobody is curious how to make this Pipewire to work for real?

I for one, I played a bit with Pipewire in the past...

All words, no information. Useless.

Thanks to Eric for his previous work on ktown and thanks to Pat for his vtown.
But, as gdiazlo, i hope digikam and friends will remain in the distro.
Please Pat...pleasepleaseplease
:-))

HP

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