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The danger with recommending Slackware et al is that it will just put Windows users off Linux if they think that all Linux is like that. They may revert to the comfortable and familiar and not be bothered to try other distros.
As I have said, I was not really concerned with "converting" - i.e. persuading people who are unable to make their own informed decisions to change the OS, or who require shepherding and accommodating with something Windows/macOS like.
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Originally Posted by Lysander666
I suppose one could propose an alternative first choice. Salix isn't a bad option as you say. Maybe MX Linux. But from what I can see, the Ubuntu forums are mostly a new user cattle ring and people don't tend to stay there for that long.
My point is that one could suggest the distribution one uses - and leave it to others to suggest the distributions they use.
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Originally Posted by Lysander666
anything that doesn't encourage the use of sudo on single-user systems [does Salix? I can't remember].
I don't have any real aversion to sudo or any strong opinions about it.
As I recall Salix is Slackware with extra repositories, Salix packages are compatible with Slackware, but it's so long since I've used it I might have that a bit wrong...
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Originally Posted by Lysander666
I think the harder problem is getting people to care. If they are the kind of people that just want to 'get things done', or are used to things installing the easy way, they will just go that route and installing a Slackbuild will seem like an unnecessary fumble. In essence though, I take your point, there is definitely an argument for not deterring new users from Slackware, but if they are Windows users I would say there is less of a chance that they will get on with the OS than with others.
That's quite arguably "not your problem". If someone finds it too much of a chore, they can go elsewhere.
It makes little difference anyway and the uninformed, or fanbois of some other distros, will still spread FUD about Slackware regardless.
Stop feeding trolls and let them enjoy their superior systemd crap distros. Who cares what they think about slack health beacause it seems that they are uncapable to read changelogs if they aren't in some fancy gui format. Move on, nothing to see here...
Just wanted to point out that slax abandoned Slackware for Debian.
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Tomáš Matějíček has announced the availability of a new release of Slax, a distribution formerly based on Slackware Linux, but recently re-designed and built on top of Debian's stable branch.
Last edited by bassplayer69; 11-25-2018 at 06:32 AM.
Just wanted to point out that slax abandoned Slackware for Debian.
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Originally Posted by Tomáš Matějíček - Oct 2013
Slax based on Debian? No I'm just kidding, Slax will be based on Slackware forever
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Originally Posted by Tomáš Matějíček - Nov 2017
This time, Slax uses Debian stretch as its base, and thus it can offer all the wonders of the mighty 'apt' command. If you are missing any software in Slax, use 'apt install SOFTWARENAME' to get it in an instant. I've decided to go for Debian because it made my life much easier and I believe that it will make yours too.
When I read things like this I appreciate Slackware's approach to traditionalism all the more. It hasn't abandoned its principles: it is hugely consistent. I feel that the rarer such ethics become in software, the more vital they are. Software has to develop, but does it always have to adapt?
Last edited by Lysander666; 11-25-2018 at 07:34 AM.
I wonder if there is a reason Pat doesn't use the old logo? The coffee mugs would be great with the standard logo.
Yeah, I should look into that. Unless I upgrade my CafePress account to a paid premium I'm allowed to have one product design. At the time I used the flippy logo to avoid competing with my own store... wouldn't be an issue now.
Yeah, I should look into that. Unless I upgrade my CafePress account to a paid premium I'm allowed to have one product design. At the time I used the flippy logo to avoid competing with my own store... wouldn't be an issue now.
I would love to buy some things with the old/original logo.
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