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Old 01-28-2021, 04:59 PM   #61
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Takes about 12 hours or so with 5 machines in an icecream cluster and -j 44.
And your central heating runs a lot less during that 12 hours, I hope!
 
Old 01-29-2021, 12:56 AM   #62
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I wonder how long it would take to compile all of Slackware on my 350MHz Pentium II.
 
Old 01-29-2021, 01:40 AM   #63
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Hi "nobodino",

I think the mass-rebuild would include both the 64-bit and the 32-bit versions. :-)

Also, I imagine the overhead for orchestrating the cluster is not zero, and that data movement from server to server is slower than within the server. So it may be that one server's worth of effort/time is taken up doing these things.

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Thanks for the answer.
I'm a bit surprised by the time to build with 5 machines.
On my machine not very powerful (an i6700 + 16Go ram), SFS takes about 27 hours (with -j8) to build the 1552 packages.
And llvm is build in 2 pass which is time consuming, 1srt pass with gcc and the 2nd pass with clang.
 
Old 01-29-2021, 03:06 AM   #64
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That package should actually be considered obsolete, but since eudev mounts a virtual /dev directory in that location there's not really a safe way to remove it. "Rebuilding" and upgrading it pretty much hoses the system until a reboot.
Regarding this devs package, there are ways to safely remove it: using the mount binding or booting from another system, i.e. from LiveSlak.

I have tested and successfully removed it, without affecting the system, with those commands as root:
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mount --bind / /mnt/tmp
ROOT=/mnt/tmp removepkg devs
rm -f /mnt/tmp/dev/*
The last line is needed only because there still are three dangling symlinks.

Tested myself in multiple boxes and after a reboot nothing is changed, and even before, the /dev structure is no affected.

Maybe you could initiate a campaign of devs removal?

I am sure that the people would hear your call to remove manually this obsolete package.


BTW, I believe that all those things could be well automated by creating a package named like a-devs-uninstaller with a doinst.sh which removes (if exists) the devs package using this method of mount binding.

PS. I think that devs cleaner name should initiate with the character "a" for taking precedence into packages listing, then we could have:
Code:
a-devs-uninstaller-1.0-noarch.txz:  Added.
devs-2.3.1-noarch-25.txz:  Removed.
In fact, the devs would be already removed when installing the first package.

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Old 01-29-2021, 06:09 AM   #65
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another question: what are the spec of the 5 machines of PV, Alien Bob and other developers?
- CPU ?
- RAM ?

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Old 01-29-2021, 02:09 PM   #66
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another question: what are the spec of the 5 machines of PV, Alien Bob and other developers?
- CPU ?
- RAM ?
This is what I'm currently using:

Lead compile box: Intel i7-9850H (6 cores, 12 threads), 64GB RAM
Compile box (also icecream scheduler): Intel i5-4570 (4 cores, 4 threads), 8GB RAM
Compile box: Intel i7-8550U (4 cores, 8 threads), 16GB RAM
Compile box: Intel i7-5600U (2 cores, 4 threads), 12GB RAM
Compile box: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T (6 cores, 6 threads), 16GB RAM
 
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Old 01-29-2021, 03:08 PM   #67
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another question: what are the spec of the 5 machines of PV, Alien Bob and other developers?
- CPU ?
- RAM ?
I have only one machine powerful enough to perform all these compiles, and it has many roles besides that (mail/file/print server, media server):
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 8-core CPU (16 threads @1.4 GHz) with 64GB RAM.

My 'compile boxes' are actually QEMU VM's running on that host and each gets a share of the total RAM and a portion of the total threads.
 
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Old 01-29-2021, 03:32 PM   #68
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Respectable machines, but maybe we should do a fundraiser and get both these men a Threadripper 3990x system with 256gb of ram LOL . That should cut down on the compile time a little.

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Old 01-29-2021, 05:41 PM   #69
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Respectable machines, but maybe we should do a fundraiser and get both these men a Threadripper 3990x system with 256gb of ram LOL . That should cut down on the compile time a little.
Linus Torvalds is now rocking a 3970x I believe. As a second gen Threadripper user I can attest to the power of these CPUs to compile fast!

I would certainly contribute to a fund to get our BDFL a Threadripper machine and I sure many others would as well. I believe that a total of about USD $4,000 would be required for a similar 3970x build? The 3990x I believe is ludicrously over-priced...
 
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Old 01-29-2021, 06:25 PM   #70
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Linus Torvalds is now rocking a 3970x I believe. As a second gen Threadripper user I can attest to the power of these CPUs to compile fast!

I would certainly contribute to a fund to get our BDFL a Threadripper machine and I sure many others would as well. I believe that a total of about USD $4,000 would be required for a similar 3970x build? The 3990x I believe is ludicrously over-priced...
I would gladly donate $50 or more toward the cause to get a Pat a threadripper system if someone actually started a fundraiser.
 
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Old 01-29-2021, 07:51 PM   #71
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I would gladly donate $50 or more toward the cause to get a Pat a threadripper system if someone actually started a fundraiser.
I appreciate the thought, but my cluster is fast enough for now. I'll let you know if we start requiring a mass rebuild several times a month.
 
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Old 01-29-2021, 09:27 PM   #72
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If you need a new box, I heartily recommend June. My old box crapped the bed right after graduations, but just before Father's day. There were some insanely good sales on.
 
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Old 01-29-2021, 09:35 PM   #73
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I appreciate the thought, but my cluster is fast enough for now. I'll let you know if we start requiring a mass rebuild several times a month.
As my long gone best friend often quipped, if you are going to have problems then those are the kinds of problems that are nice to have.
 
Old 02-01-2021, 10:50 PM   #74
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Angry

After this glibc 2.32 update now Opera 65.x.xxxx.xx keeps crashing tabs when there's any video running.

I also took the opportunity to test it on Xubuntu Nightly in a live session using VirtualBox and the same thing happens.

The relationship between glibc and Linux is such a nightmare!
 
Old 02-02-2021, 11:06 AM   #75
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I appreciate the thought, but my cluster is fast enough for now. I'll let you know if we start requiring a mass rebuild several times a month.
*blink*
 
  


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