Dear Patrick, please throw away KDE forever

Didier Spaier · 04-08-2021, 06:47 PM

I'd love to be a clown, unfortunately I'm not sure to own the needed skills

bassmadrigal · 04-08-2021, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ialexand

If it matters or not - you don't decide it. You already expressed your view on the topic, and you don't need to repeat it again and again. So mind your business and don't behave like a clown.

You've repeated your information several times and posted this on a public forum. That means anyone can post and they can ignore the "mind your own business". I won't talk about your behavior.

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Originally Posted by ialexand

Too many words...

Ok, too many words for you. Sorry, I'll simplify.

Plasma5 in testing/ for 34 days (including several major updates from upstream).

PAM in testing/ for 95 days.

PAM has taken more time to prepare for Slackware.

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Originally Posted by ialexand

You probably forgot many years of Allien's efforts before Plasma went to -current and still problematic.

Want to dive into that? You're missing info with that. vbatts work on PAM started in 2012 and Alien Bob's work on Plasma5 started in 2014.

Plasma5: Alien Bob's first release - 13 AUG 2014
PAM: vbatts earliest found release - 17 FEB 2012

Based on you being uninformed, you might not be aware that vbatts is also a core dev team member of Slackware. http://www.slackware.com/~vbatts/

I still think PAM caused the biggest delay for 15.0.

chrisretusn · 04-08-2021, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ialexand

Throwing GNOME away wasn't a dealbreaker though. The situation with KDE will be worse and worse in the future.

Ahm.. actually I remember for a few folks it was a deal breaker. I left Slackware for a short while because of that. I came back because the was nothing else out there worth considering. I overcame and adapted to live without GNOME2 just as I have grown to appreciate KDE Plamsma 5. In the highly unlikely event that KDE was dumped from Slackware, I would overcome and adapt. For me it not all about the desktop environment, it is Slackware as a whole the keeps me going as a Slackware user. There is really is nothing else out their worth considering.

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Originally Posted by ialexand

Don't you see that you are killing Slackware with this biger than GNOME giant and ugly garbage?

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. In my eyes, KDE out shines GNOME3.

So what would you replace KDE with? I suspect I know that answer, though I could be wrong.

Skaendo · 04-08-2021, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisretusn

So what would you replace KDE with?

Just barging in here, Cinnamon please!!!

I like Slackware just the way it is and I don't use any of the installed environments, large or small. I don't even install them. If PV decides to change it, it won't bother me in the least.

frankbell · 04-08-2021, 08:20 PM

As far as I am concerned KDE/Plasma works quite nicely.

And I find KDE applications (Konsole, Kate, Gwenview, etc.) superior to their equivalents from other DEs. Even if I'm not using KDE/Plasma (as, for example, when I used my preferred GUI, Fluxbox), I use the KDE/Plasma applications under Fluxbox.

Also, I loathe Gnome with the fire of a thousand suns.

perbh · 04-08-2021, 08:34 PM

(big sigh) Honestly, who cares? Personally I only use XFCE, but that is _my_ prerogative. If Slackware came with 101-dalmations-desktops, I would still use Slackware and XFCE. Ok - so it takes a bit more gigs on my disk - I don't care. The advantages of Slackware go wayyyy beyond whatever desktop you choose.
Just my 2c-worth.

JWJones · 04-08-2021, 09:46 PM

Not likely. KDE is regularly voted DE of the Year here at LQ, and is the only serious contender for a consistent, powerful, attractive Linux desktop experience. And I say this is someone who doesn't use it, or even install it when I install Slackware.

garpu · 04-08-2021, 10:08 PM

I really miss enlightenment. It's such a pain in the arse to build these days, though.

FTIO · 04-08-2021, 10:42 PM

Stupid Should Hurt. The OP has a permanent migraine.

perseus12 · 04-08-2021, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

I'd love to be a clown, unfortunately I'm not sure to own the needed skills

We don't need a clown...Right now we need the 'cantankerous one'!

Or maybe we need a sheriff to clean up this town...getting too rowdy with all these forum rustlers coming and shooting things up.

Yipeee kai Yaaaaah

hitest · 04-08-2021, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbell

As far as I am concerned KDE/Plasma works quite nicely.

Agreed. KDE-plasma on Slackware is a very welcome addition, it's leaner, faster than KDE4. Also, along with the addition of the newer XFCE we have a winner when 15.0 is released.

RadicalDreamer · 04-08-2021, 11:06 PM

While we are all here, anyone want to figure out the issue with Big Picture Overlay in Steam and Slackware Current? https://github.com/ValveSoftware/ste...ux/issues/7727

Valve needs you for the greater good of humanity!

Jeebizz · 04-08-2021, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaendo

Just barging in here, Cinnamon please!!!

I like Slackware just the way it is and I don't use any of the installed environments, large or small. I don't even install them. If PV decides to change it, it won't bother me in the least.

I find that Cinnamon takes the most ram as I always take that into account when using a DE, and playing in --Current I have also messed with MATE as well as Plasma(KDE) , and surprisingly KDE has the least amount of RAM usage.

RadicalDreamer · 04-08-2021, 11:15 PM

I've been using the schedutil scaling governor and I like it a lot. Has anyone else tried it with an older Intel CPU?

Code:

if [ "$(cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver 2> /dev/null)" =
 "intel_cpufreq" ]; then
  SCALING_GOVERNOR="schedutil"
fi

ctrondheim · 04-08-2021, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RadicalDreamer

I've been using the schedutil scaling governor and I like it a lot. Has anyone else tried it with an older Intel CPU?

Code:

if [ "$(cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver 2> /dev/null)" =
 "intel_cpufreq" ]; then
  SCALING_GOVERNOR="schedutil"
fi

what about it do you like? I've never heard of this but it sounds interesting.