Call for Testers: Cinnamon SlackBuilds

willysr · 04-16-2014, 11:50 PM

OK, done
Added to my CSB github repo
binary is uploaded to the repo as well

Drakeo · 04-17-2014, 06:39 AM

today pulled from git 3.30 am cst USA . built it in Slackware64-current multi-lib CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor (4000 MHz)

Memory: 11979 MB Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce GT 640/PCIe/SSE2
Suspend to ram works well. Able to get all my multimedia to work through pulse.

Still no open terminal here.

willysr · 04-17-2014, 09:39 AM

What do you mean by no open terminal?

Drakeo · 04-17-2014, 01:08 PM

Quote:

What do you mean by no open terminal?

the short cut from nemo never works for me. I been researching it. From the build code it is suppose to use xterm I believe.
Xterm works konsole works all the terminals work. but the call (short cut ) is still not working.

01micko · 04-17-2014, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakeo

the short cut from nemo never works for me. I been researching it. From the build code it is suppose to use xterm I believe.
Xterm works konsole works all the terminals work. but the call (short cut ) is still not working.

I was under the impression it is hard coded to gnome-terminal.
Anyway, to change it to whatever you want (I used xfce4-terminal)...

Code:

gsettings set org.cinnamon.desktop.default-applications.terminal exec xfce4-terminal

Drakeo · 04-17-2014, 06:49 PM

TY 01micko

willysr · 04-17-2014, 09:05 PM

I'm assuming that it was set by other applications, but the above code by 01micko should work as well
I will add that to KNOWN_ISSUES. Thanks

chessmaster15 · 04-22-2014, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakeo

link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libGL.la' or unhandled argument `/usr/lib/libGL.la'

on a slackware64 14.1 oh well
should have stopped when I seen pulse audio on it.
because that will break a lot of my work. I will throw a clean slackware image on a disk try again.

Change your /usr/lib64/libGL.la libdir=/usr/lib to lib=/usr/lib64

01micko · 04-23-2014, 05:28 AM

This is more or less a tip for cinnamon/nemo rather than a bug report because KDE/XFCE4 are known (read whole thread for background, only 1 page) to act similarly.

When you download something with firefox and attempt to "Open Containing Folder" from the download icon dropdown list, firefox tries to open the directory with Cervisia; of course an error pops up. The same happens when you plug in an Android device. It's a simple mime issue.

This is what I have to fix both problems in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache

Code:

[MIME Cache]
inode/directory=nemo.desktop;kde4-dolphin.desktop;kde4-kfmclient_dir.desktop;kde4-cervisia.desktop;Thunar-folder-handler.desktop

The only necessary part if running cinnamon/nemo is inode/directory=nemo.desktop;, however the others do no harm and make life easier if you want to switch DE.

I believe you should be able to set this from nemo by right clicking on a directory and choosing "Open with", but since I solved this once before (for Dolphin) I thought I'd share the manual method.

Hope this is useful to someone

willysr · 04-23-2014, 06:38 AM

I think the same problem experienced in MATE as well and it was documented in KNOWN ISSUES

Quote:

Mon Jun 10 03:09:28 UTC 2013
If you are encountering problems with Caja (MATE's file manager) opening
directories when clicking on files in certain programs like Dropbox, Skype,
and others, please execute the following steps to fix it:

As your regular user, back up the following file:
$HOME/.local/share/applications/defaults.list and then enter the next two
commands in a terminal to set the default handler:

xdg-mime default caja-folder-handler.desktop inode/directory
xdg-mime default caja-folder-handler.desktop application/x-directory

You should be all set. Thanks to Totoro-kun and T3slider for reporting and
discussing this in the LQ forums and also thanks to Giorgos Keramidas for
creating the initial patch. Here is a link to the LQ thread which also has
a link to Giorgos's blog with the patch:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi....php?p=4968614

I believe it should be applicable to Cinnamon as well, but instead of caja, it should be nemo

Woodsman · 04-26-2014, 05:30 PM

What is the gtkrc (3.0) trick to modify the Nemo file manager folder expansion widgets from a triangle to a plus/minus sign? See the Mate Caja file manager for the difference.

Edit: Is there a way to modify the width of scroll bars in Cinnamon?

Thanks.

willysr · 04-26-2014, 08:25 PM

i think it's possible to do that, but you will have to look for the source code

Woodsman · 04-27-2014, 11:36 AM

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i think it's possible to do that, but you will have to look for the source code

I understand --- but that is nuts.

I wish developers worked more with users who are not tech savvy. Friday I presented a Linux machine to a retired couple who want to migrate from XP. The instant they sat in the chairs I knew the default desktop was wrong for them. They almost pressed their noses against the monitor trying to do anything. The sliders are too small, the panel height too small, desktop icons and text too small, etc.

I adjusted the panel height and changed the browser home page to the one they are accustomed. The proverbial light bulbs were on and they immediately felt more at ease. I still haven't found the trick to fixing the Cinnamon slider width. There needs to be a GUI control for this. A GUI control is needed in Mate too although at least that can be hand-edited in a gtkrc file.

Mate has similar geek issues. Adjusting the panel height to more than 35 pixels and then the app icon buttons start stacking vertically to "save" space on the panel. This kind of geek design and behavior scares the hell out of users. I still don't know how to prevent Mate from stacking the app icon buttons in the panel and I won't subject users to such nonsense.

Then there is that damnable terminal button on the panels or menu favorites. I use the terminal all day, but I never expect non tech savvy people to open a terminal. Hide the terminal to encourage more people to migrate. The geeks will find that button in less than 10 seconds.

Another problem is neither Cinnamon nor Mate have a 'Run Application' in the menu. Potential Windows converts know about "Run..." in their Windows menu. "Oh!" the geeks respond, "Just press Alt+F2." WTF.

Geeks just don't get it and I suppose they never will.

Edit: Tip of the day: When I showed the retired couple the NoSquint add-on for Firefox, they thought I was a miracle worker. I use NoSquint too. As Jerry Pournelle would say: Recommended.

01micko · 04-27-2014, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsman

What is the gtkrc (3.0) trick to modify the Nemo file manager folder expansion widgets from a triangle to a plus/minus sign? See the Mate Caja file manager for the difference.

Unfortunately it does seem to be hard coded to triangles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsman

Edit: Is there a way to modify the width of scroll bars in Cinnamon?

Thanks.

For gtk2 programs (Firefox still uses gtk2 toolkit) try this in ~/.gtkrc-2.0

Code:

style "scrollbar"
{
    GtkScrollbar::slider-width = 18
}
class "Gtk*Scrollbar" style "scrollbar"

style "resize-grip"
{
    GtkWindow::resize-grip-height = 24
    GtkWindow::resize-grip-width = 24
}
class "GtkWindow*" style "resize-grip"

Still looking for a gtk3 work around.

I have to agree that things are still way too geeky for Windows converts.

Woodsman · 04-27-2014, 09:24 PM

Took me a long while to find solutions:

* Restore GTK3 scrollbar slider behavior to Page Up/Page Down
touch /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
[Settings]
gtk-primary-button-warps-slider=0

* Fix GTK3 scrollbar slider width
/usr/share/themes/$THEME/gtk-3.0/gtk-widgets.css: default -GtkRange-slider-width: 19px

* Fix Cinnamon menu scrollbar width
/usr/share/themes/$THEME/cinnamon/cinnamon.css: StScrollView STScrollBar min-width: 19px

Quote:

try this in ~/.gtkrc-2.0

I place that into /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc. Easier for everybody all around.

So many developers seem to display ignorance toward older users. They focus on making everything as small as possible. Some kind of nutty philosophy about "maximizing screen real estate." Or, they develop on monitors that are as big as televisions and everything looks grand --- to them. They forget to test the same design on humble 19" monitors. Web developers and their obsession with small fonts make the same design mistake.