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Old 12-04-2017, 08:06 PM   #211
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But you published not one, but 4 or 5 programs, plus that suite for Slackware configuration, were was a lot of gui programs plus an installer. I do not remember how was named.
 
Old 12-04-2017, 08:07 PM   #212
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You talk about ALICE/YaLI
 
Old 12-04-2017, 08:11 PM   #213
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Excuse me, even they are old code, 7 years old or even more, why you do not put them in a git repository?

Maybe someone would find them useful, or will grab the code and develop something from them.

I remember that disk partitioner, was really nice, and in its time, way more advanced than gparted.
 
Old 12-04-2017, 08:18 PM   #214
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Disk Manager was its name.

I will think about publishing them in a git repository.

BTW, I want to ask you something...

You hang in this forum since 2010, how you managed to not learn at an advanced level the Linux?

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Old 12-04-2017, 08:32 PM   #215
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I was never interested to become a developer, and I had no time to study the Linux.

Plus, over 5 years I do not even touched a computer. The life in Karelia is not too easy.
 
Old 12-04-2017, 08:33 PM   #216
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You live in Karelia? Where it is?
 
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You know where is Sweden? Karelia is the part of Russia near Sweden.
 
Old 12-04-2017, 08:37 PM   #218
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Oh, I understand. You guys have reindeers.
 
Old 12-04-2017, 08:39 PM   #219
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They live here. To know they aren't so cute in the real life.

A furious reindeer is more dangerous than a bear.

Did you know the live could be updated with slackpkg? I ran slackpkg with success, but increase in size a bit.

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Old 12-04-2017, 08:43 PM   #220
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You know where is Sweden? Karelia is the part of Russia near Sweden.
You mean Finland, as Karelia used to be a part of Finland before the Soviets stole it.
 
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Eric, I explained that my idea is not a dependency resolution, but just an extension of today sets from "single" to "multiple", using a file instead of folders.
You keep saying this and we keep telling you how it is wrong. How can you know whether or not a package, when removed, will not cause issues with other packages? By knowing what its dependencies are.

There's no other way to know that (short of blindly removing things and trying them out, but in a distro with over 1000 packages, that's pretty much impossible to ensure there's no conflicts).

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You hang in this forum since 2010, how you managed to not learn at an advanced level the Linux?
Just because someone joined this forum doesn't mean they've used Linux from that point on. They might've had a question, then found it was easier to go back to Windows, then decided with the way Microsoft is pushing Windows that they wanted to try Linux out again. Based on other forums I've frequented, I'd imagine a huge percentage of users have 10 posts or less. They have a question, get it answered (or sometimes don't get it answered) and then never come back. They may or may not still use Linux.
 
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Old 12-04-2017, 08:46 PM   #222
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You mean Finland, as Karelia used to be a part of Finland before the Soviets stole it.
Yes. Thanks you for correction.
 
Old 12-04-2017, 08:51 PM   #223
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You keep saying this and we keep telling you how it is wrong. How can you know whether or not a package, when removed, will not cause issues with other packages? By knowing what its dependencies are.

There's no other way to know that (short of blindly removing things and trying them out, but in a distro with over 1000 packages, that's pretty much impossible to ensure there's no conflicts).
Lets put the things this way: could the actual package sets has dependencies or they manage dependencies? I don't think so.

Same that idea of groups, which is just a way to specify multiple virtual "sets". It is agnostic of dependencies management, just like the package sets.

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Just because someone joined this forum doesn't mean they've used Linux from that point on. They might've had a question, then found it was easier to go back to Windows, then decided with the way Microsoft is pushing Windows that they wanted to try Linux out again. Based on other forums I've frequented, I'd imagine a huge percentage of users have 10 posts or less. They have a question, get it answered (or sometimes don't get it answered) and then never come back. They may or may not still use Linux.
I figured out that, and same kind of explanation given also @LuckyCyborg.

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Excuse me, but I do not think those groups are good for removing packages.

They make sense only for installer, like the sets.

I said in a post here, you can have dozens of groups on select, and all packages put in a single directory.

You chose the groups, the installer do grepping in the *.txt files, and compute the list of packages to install.

But after installation, I do not see usefulness other than to manually inspect the files for packages.
 
Old 12-04-2017, 09:13 PM   #225
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Yes, you are right.

Their utility is mainly informational, just like I said, a categorization of the packages.

BTW, I am aware about their possible utility for installer, but this is an (collateral) effect of the design, as even the today package sets could be considered a form to categorize and organize the packages.
 
  


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