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Old 03-15-2022, 02:48 PM   #1
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15.0 complete installation on ThinkPad T430: issues with Xfce4-4.16 loading and exiting as user


For some reason now when I issue the startx command it takes about one minute to load. And when I try to log out using the menu nothing happens. This is new behavior. When root runs startx it loads in seconds and there's no problem leaving the GUI.

How can I identify the source of the problem? I've no expertise interpreting strace output. When I had added another user to the system there were no problems loading or leaving.

I'm puzzled.

Rich
 
Old 03-15-2022, 05:31 PM   #2
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I ran 'strace startx' as both root and user. The output of both are tar'd and gzipped and can be downloaded over the next 5 days from <tinyurl.com/4fekx8f3>. Each is about 76KB and too long to post here as code.

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Old 03-16-2022, 03:48 AM   #3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rshepard View Post
<tinyurl.com/4fekx8f3>
Please do not post tinyurl shorteners, as they could easily point to 20GB files.
Not sure if they are against the rules on LQ, but they probably should be.

Attach .txt to your post, or use pastebin direct link if your log can't fit in your post.
 
Old 03-16-2022, 07:59 AM   #4
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You said when you added new user and no such problem for that new user (I hope I understand it correctly). I think something in the X init files or related files are interfacing with your startx.

Check below two files if they exist and if so what they consists of:
  • $(HOME)/.startxrc
  • $(HOME)/.xinitrc
 
Old 03-16-2022, 02:54 PM   #5
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I had problems with my XFCE after upgrading to 15 as well. If it works for new users, and for root where you probably had a very default desktop/session setup (hopefully :-) ). It may be an issue with session manager.

You might go into ~/.config/ and rename the xfce4, xfce4-session directories to something like xfce4.old and xfce4-session.old respectively.

Try restarting XFCE. You will have lost some of settings and what not obviously but it will help narrow down the issue. You can then either delete the new directories and move your old ones back into place, and troubleshoot more or just carry on. I just re-did my startup apps, panel settings etc and moved on.

Last edited by chemfire; 03-16-2022 at 02:56 PM.
 
Old 03-17-2022, 04:43 AM   #6
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Please do not post tinyurl shorteners, as they could easily point to 20GB files.
Not sure if they are against the rules on LQ, but they probably should be.

Attach .txt to your post, or use pastebin direct link if your log can't fit in your post.
While the alternatives you mention are good avice for sure, why should anyone be so concerned with outlawing a type of link? It's not like we can't stop the connection if it seems too large in each person's view. Plus, wouldn't it be more effective and useful to simply require noting size rather than outright banning? I am by no means an anarchist but I do think we'd be better off with fewer laws and regulations as opposed to more. It baffles me why so much old and ridiculous legislation in every organization I know of remains "on the books"... seems counterproductive to me.

As for the topic, strace is great but I'd start with /var/log/Xorg.0.log since I have a few times seen a single line in xorg.conf cause a lot of thrashing about that can cause any number of issues. I'd want to know that before I delved any deeper.

Also, lately I have been adding a specific declaration in xorg.conf for

Code:
Section "InputClass"
    Identifier         "Keyboard0"
    Driver             "evdev"
    MatchIsKeyboard    "on"
    MatchDevicePath    "/dev/input/event*"
    Option         "XkbLayout" "us"
   Option         "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
EndSection
...so I can leave instantly from X and view any complications from CLI.

Last edited by enorbet; 03-17-2022 at 04:51 AM.
 
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Old 03-17-2022, 04:59 AM   #7
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why should anyone be so concerned with outlawing a type of link?
It's where spam comes from, because url shortener allows for hiding the destination url.
So, it may or may not contain spam, adware, malware or whatever and you'll never know since it's impossible to moderate.
It could be a perfectly legit link now, but become an exploit waiting to happen 2 days from now.
That is why, no other reason in particular.
 
Old 03-17-2022, 02:17 PM   #8
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How can I identify the source of the problem? I've no expertise interpreting strace output. When I had added another user to the system there were no problems loading or leaving.
Further checking found other issues, too. I did a complete re-installation of 15.0 and when I added me as a user and started the X Window system it came up in a few seconds. Cleanly exited, too.

Problem's resolved.

Rich
 
  


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