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Old 03-30-2016, 10:19 AM   #1
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​Microsoft and Canonical partner to bring Ubuntu to Windows 10


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According to sources at Canonical, Ubuntu Linux's parent company, and Microsoft, you'll soon be able to run Ubuntu on Windows 10.

This will be more than just running the Bash shell on Windows 10. After all, thanks to programs such as Cygwin or MSYS utilities, hardcore Unix users have long been able to run the popular Bash command line interface (CLI) on Windows.

With this new addition, Ubuntu users will be able to run Ubuntu simultaneously with Windows. This will not be in a virtual machine, but as an integrated part of Windows 10.

The details won't be revealed until tomorrow's morning keynote speech at Microsoft Build. It is believed that Ubuntu will run on top of Windows 10's recently and quietly introduced Linux subsystems in a new Windows 10 Redstone build.

Microsoft and Canonical will not, however, sources say, be integrating Linux per se into Windows. Instead, Ubuntu will primarily run on a foundation of native Windows libraries. This would indicate that while Microsoft is still hard at work on bringing containers to Windows 10 in project Barcelona, this isn't the path Ubuntu has taken to Windows.

That said, Canonical and Microsoft have been working on bringing containers to Windows since last summer. They've been doing this using LXD. This is an open-source hypervisor designed specifically for use with containers instead of virtual machines (VMs). The fruits of that project are more likely to show up in Azure than Windows 10.
More at ZDNet...

--jeremy
 
Old 03-31-2016, 12:41 AM   #2
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So... SUA round 2...
 
Old 03-31-2016, 05:49 PM   #3
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Here is a post from the guy leading it:

http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/...n-windows.html
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:09 PM   #4
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I'm really glad I'm not running Ubuntu, so I don't have to change distros. Ubuntu is now at the very bottom of my list.
 
Old 04-01-2016, 01:26 AM   #5
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Angry MS history

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History shows that one off two things happen after MS touch any thing.
(1) it dies!
or
(2) it gets owned/controlled by MS
both are bad for Linux.
 
Old 04-01-2016, 07:42 AM   #6
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And then there was this April Fool's joke that almost made my day.
 
Old 04-01-2016, 09:53 AM   #7
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And then there was this April Fool's joke that almost made my day.
Cute.
 
Old 04-01-2016, 09:55 AM   #8
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I'm really glad I'm not running Ubuntu, so I don't have to change distros. Ubuntu is now at the very bottom of my list.
Agreed, Ubuntu has been at the bottom of my list for quite some time. Although this move is likely a win for Canonical.
Edit; the rest of the article from jeremy.
"It also seems unlikely that Ubuntu will be bringing its Unity interface with it. Instead the focus will be on Bash and other CLI tools, such as make, gawk and grep.

Could you run a Linux desktop such as Unity, GNOME, or KDE on it? Probably, but that's not the purpose of this partnership.

Canonical and Microsoft are doing this because Ubuntu on Windows' target audience is developers, not desktop users. In particular, as Microsoft and Canonical continue to work more closely together on cloud projects, I expect to find tools that will make it easy for programmers to use Ubuntu to write programs for Ubuntu on the Azure cloud.

So is this MS-Linux? No. Is it a major step forward in the integration of Windows and Linux on the developer desktop? Yes, yes it is."

Last edited by offgridguy; 04-01-2016 at 10:01 AM.
 
Old 04-01-2016, 10:13 AM   #9
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Cute.
Not if rumors started months ago and news of integrating Ubuntu on Windows comes the day before.
 
Old 04-01-2016, 10:56 AM   #10
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The only thing I am wondering?

How much this is going to cost me on my Windows 10 biker tuner laptop.
 
Old 04-01-2016, 01:10 PM   #11
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Personally I think this is much ado about nothing. I think Canonical sees the writing on the wall. Linux simply never delivered the 'killer' must-have-app that would entice the average user to make the switch. I know this has been cussed and discussed to death and don't get me wrong - I love the idea of 'open source', I've been puttering around with various flavors of linux for 15 years.
Microsoft isn't going to kill linux as a stand alone OS, IMO hardware is going to do it. In another thread I related that both my (old) dual boot laptop and desktop had gone on the fritz at Christmas and I bought an entry level 2 core I3, 500 Gb h/d, 8 gigs of ram Win 10 laptop to play with until 16.04 LTS comes out in April. I got tired of waiting for my linux fix so I installed VBox and set up a 16.04 daily build VM with drag/drop, copy-to-clipboard, and shared folders. It just works. I can't tell any difference in performance to the 14.04 d/b I was running on my older laptop.
If I were a sys admin or were running a server I might feel differently but for the average Joe linux is a feel good behavior, not on a need to basis.
In 5 years I may be able to take the money I paid for this toy and bye a multi-core I7 with 16 gigs of memory, a Tbyte of storage, advanced graphics chip and who knows what else? I fully expect to be able to run windows, linux, a flavor of bsd, perhaps OpenIndiana if it hasn't withered away by then, and even more, simultaneously and seamlessly.
I hope linux comes up with something the general population just has to have but time is running out. I know people will start screaming about security and anonymity but the truth is that as important as that is to our (relatively) tiny community, the average person out there doesn't take the time to secure their social media much less their computer.
 
Old 04-01-2016, 01:15 PM   #12
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I've seen a few of these anouncements about M$ open source and I saw the first yesterday -- I still think it's M$ software being unaware of the real date.
 
Old 04-02-2016, 12:17 PM   #13
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Personally I think this is much ado about nothing. I think Canonical sees the writing on the wall. Linux simply never delivered the 'killer' must-have-app that would entice the average user to make the switch. I know this has been cussed and discussed to death and don't get me wrong - I love the idea of 'open source', I've been puttering around with various flavors of linux for 15 years.
Microsoft isn't going to kill linux as a stand alone OS, IMO hardware is going to do it. In another thread I related that both my (old) dual boot laptop and desktop had gone on the fritz at Christmas and I bought an entry level 2 core I3, 500 Gb h/d, 8 gigs of ram Win 10 laptop to play with until 16.04 LTS comes out in April. I got tired of waiting for my linux fix so I installed VBox and set up a 16.04 daily build VM with drag/drop, copy-to-clipboard, and shared folders. It just works. I can't tell any difference in performance to the 14.04 d/b I was running on my older laptop.
If I were a sys admin or were running a server I might feel differently but for the average Joe linux is a feel good behavior, not on a need to basis.
In 5 years I may be able to take the money I paid for this toy and bye a multi-core I7 with 16 gigs of memory, a Tbyte of storage, advanced graphics chip and who knows what else? I fully expect to be able to run windows, linux, a flavor of bsd, perhaps OpenIndiana if it hasn't withered away by then, and even more, simultaneously and seamlessly.
I hope linux comes up with something the general population just has to have but time is running out. I know people will start screaming about security and anonymity but the truth is that as important as that is to our (relatively) tiny community, the average person out there doesn't take the time to secure their social media much less their computer.
+1.
 
Old 04-09-2016, 09:07 PM   #14
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Monopoly and reduced freedom of choice if/when MS successfully absorbs all competitors. Debauchery can thrive in dark muddy waters, in the short term. Long term, if not forced coercion by the FCC and law, then economics and marketing steadily steer humanity under a suffocating control.
 
Old 04-12-2016, 08:02 PM   #15
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Relative to this topic, I found this.
http://www.howtogeek.com/249966/how-...on-windows-10/
 
  


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