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Old 12-20-2023, 04:35 AM   #1
louis47
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Try to install Linux Distro's on my laptop


Clevo notebook 32 GB geheugen (2017)
Processor i7 2,80 GHz
1 “normal” Toshiba 512GB disk with several partitions,
1 Intel ssd disk 512 GB now with Manjaro and some free partitions.
An NVIDIA Geforce-videocard 1070. In bios (UEFI) set to MSHYBRID.
Samsung 28" monitor as second screen with HDMI. A KVM switch for chose between Windows on my Geekom and my Clevo laptop with Manjaro an I hope several other distro's

I try several times to install a number of distro's, next to Manjaro OS or my another disk. Distro's a try: Open Suse Leap, Zorin Lite, MX Linux, PClinuxos.
Linux Mint Neon and Kubuntu, I had them already installed before but they won't install net to another linux. I wil a multiple Distro's on my laptop, or is that not possible, one by one. I will send photo's of Gparted of my disk. If I known how to do that.

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Old 12-20-2023, 04:48 AM   #2
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Is the 'normal' disk used for data as you do not mention any OS installed there?
You could post the output of fdisk -l to list your partition information for both dries. If you want to attach an image, use the paper clip icon from the icons above the input box where you are writing your message.

Your post gives no useful information. They 'won't install' isn't going to get you any help. What happens? Are you booting these Linux distros from a usb? How did you create the USB? Does it boot? What do you see when it boots? At what point does it (do they) fail? Do you see any messages on screen. Are you installing with the second screen attached? If so, try without it.
 
Old 12-20-2023, 12:09 PM   #3
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Further :
MXLinux - Opensuse Leap- Neon- : Volume full? Linux Mint : I see the logo: That's all.

PCLinuxos
Sometimes I see the bull, That's it. Later Comments : Error no suitable media for the livecd content found, (I install with a USB Stick). Workaround: Copy the content of the live cd from your boot device to an IDE/SATA DISK. Dropping you to a limited shell. loading /initrd/bin/ash initrd /bin/ash can't acces tty; job control turned off ??
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Old 12-20-2023, 12:47 PM   #4
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Error no suitable media for the livecd content found,
That is an error I would expect when trying to write an iso to a usb drive yet you say you are booting and trying to install from a usb?

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Copy the content of the live cd from your boot device to an IDE/SATA DISK
You would need a bootloader already installed for that to work along with a proper menuentry in grub.cfg or whichever bootloader you are using. Do you have that? I asked several questions to try to gather information which would help in trying toresolve your problem and you neglected to answer them. Good luck.
 
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Old 12-20-2023, 01:06 PM   #5
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That is an error I would expect when trying to write an iso to a usb drive yet you say you are booting and trying to install from a usb?



You would need a bootloader already installed for that to work along with a proper menuentry in grub.cfg or whichever bootloader you are using. Do you have that? I asked several questions to try to gather information which would help in trying toresolve your problem and you neglected to answer them. Good luck.
That's correct I try to install from a USB stick. 2: I don't neglecting you at all. Please remember your own first steps on the computer. I am a Newbie and English is not my first language. This is the first time I heart about a bootloader with a proper menu entry. I will investigate that. I thought by install a new linux distro grub make a menue
 
Old 12-20-2023, 07:52 PM   #6
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One of these might show you where you are going wrong

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...l+mx+23+linux+
 
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Old 12-21-2023, 05:56 AM   #7
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What method or software did you use to write the various Linux iso files you mention to the USB stick. Are the errors/problems you mention happening when you attempt to install or have you got to the point where the install completed and you were told to reboot?

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This is the first time I heart about a bootloader with a proper menu entry. I will investigate that.
No, don't do that. It is more complicated and you would need another Linux OS installed and working with Grub to do that so concentrate on getting the iso properly on the usb. The reason I mentioned that is because of the comment you posted in the original post. Again, what software do you use to write the Linux iso to the usb drive? Did it appear to succeed when you did it? Did you get any warnings? When you boot any of the Linux iso files from the usb, does it appear to start and give you an option to Try it or Install it? If that happens, at what point do you have problems or failure?
 
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Old 12-21-2023, 06:08 AM   #8
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One of these might show you where you are going wrong

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...l+mx+23+linux+
I use Konsole:first su then passw. and: dd if=/home/louis/Downloads/MX-23.1_KDE_x64.iso of=/dev/sdb status=progress. And that make
a iso install on USB stick.( To avoid much typing : use copy and paste in map downloads)

It was very helpfull. I get by severall distro's Volume full! ( learning VRAM is full)At first long time time ago :In bios I set secure boot on disable. but now: I set SECURE DEVICE SUPPORT ON DISABLE! And see install is possible. Thanks.
But... installing don't go futher.. Try to install Neon (Now no Volume full) But Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)1---I named partition root: That I read somewere by multiple installations call the partitions root and 1 swap is enough. Searching further.
Question Vram = Videoram?

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Old 12-21-2023, 09:32 AM   #9
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It's not common for more than one partition on a disk to have the same name. Labels are supposed to be unique. I wonder if that's what's panicking your kernel.

For ext4 partitions you can set new filesystem labels with e2label. Or if it's a gpt partition label, you should be able to reset it using gparted.

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Old 12-21-2023, 11:38 AM   #10
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If my objective is to run a live session or install to main storage, I use a Ventoy disk. #1 it avoids all "burn ISO to media" issues since you just copy it onto the Ventoy device and let Ventoy take it from there. #2 this way I can carry multiple ISO files on a single USB key and run or install the target of choice at the time. Efficient!
 
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Old 12-21-2023, 12:25 PM   #11
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If my objective is to run a live session or install to main storage, I use a Ventoy disk. #1 it avoids all "burn ISO to media" issues since you just copy it onto the Ventoy device and let Ventoy take it from there. #2 this way I can carry multiple ISO files on a single USB key and run or install the target of choice at the time. Efficient!
Ok I gone try that.That is, on first look, not so easy.

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Old 12-21-2023, 12:35 PM   #12
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Question Vram = Videoram?
U Huh. https://www.techtarget.com/searchsto...tion/video-RAM

I don't even know what you are talking about . Language barrier I guess.

I never had vram come up during a install procedure. So I have no clue
on where you are screwing up. MX installer is pretty simple and making a linux usb
has been documented on line. Might try wpeckman suggestion on making your usb.

From your writings. Grub install seems to be your stumbling point. But I can't ken where you screw up.

I md5sum check every iso downloaded for file corruption . Being a distro tester on a team.
Cuz when I say something don't work. Everyone that knows me that answers knows that has been done first.
 
Old 12-22-2023, 04:27 AM   #13
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Thanks for all the comments, advices and involvement in Linux. I do my best to solved the questions.
 
Old 12-22-2023, 04:41 AM   #14
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I would suggest that you do verify the download of the iso each time you download as suggested above as that can prevent a lot of problems later. Every major Linux OS should have instructions on their download page on how to do this.

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That I read somewere by multiple installations call the partitions root
I'm not sure that naming each partition 'root' as shown in your images above is the problem but what was meant is that during an installation, when you have a partition already existing during the installation you need to select the option of / (meaning root) as the mount point for the system. If you do not understand that, do some reading before you try installing multiple systems. Most Linux installers will have a manual install option which you would need to use in your case.

As to your question in your initial post about it being possible to install multiple Linux systems on the same drive or computer, the only real limit is the size/number of the drives on the computer so that has nothing to do with the problem.
 
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As to your question in your initial post about it being possible to install multiple Linux systems on the same drive or computer, the only real limit is the size/number of the drives on the computer so that has nothing to do with the problem.
Correction: if you are using EFI there is no practical limit. If you are not using EFI there is a limit to the number of DOS partition table entries, but it is rare to have that present a problem.

I do not see the limits of either being involved here.
 
  


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