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After ten years of Gentoo, Gentoo finally released 10.1 ...
The problem is i'm intermediate user.
There is no GUI Installer in this release.
i don't care, but when i red the handbook installation i found that this required , BUT i already have the DVD!
then i found they saying this: "The next step you need to perform is to install the stage3 tarball onto your system. You have the option of downloading the required tarball from the Internet or, if you booted one of the Gentoo Universal CDs or LiveDVDs, copy it over from the disc itself. If you have a Universal CD or LiveDVD and the stage you want to use is on the disc, downloading it from the Internet is just a waste of bandwidth as the stage files are the same. In most cases, the command uname -m can be used to help you decide which stage file to download.
Minimal CDs and LiveCDs do not contain any stage3 archive, though the LiveDVDs do."
i cant understand this!
do i must re-download the stages?!
Thanks.
Well, I don't know which connection you have, but stage3 is about 130MB... maybe it won't take so much time with your connection.
I always have installed Gentoo from minimal CD. And downloaded ALL packages from my closest gentoo's mirror, in that way you always can access to the latest version of all packages and you only download your needed packages and not hundreds of packages you will never use.
But in other hand, it's true, it is strange than stage3 is not stored in the DVD version, try to find it with the command:
I can only tell you what I did my first time:
I read all this guide one time, trying to understand all steps described.
And then I started to install the system.
It's true it took me about four days before Gnome was installed and running. But it's also true, Gentoo's documentation is the best I have read. Please relax, and read it absorbing all it's knowledge.
And in the Gentoo Handbook they say this : "...if you booted one of the Gentoo Universal CDs or LiveDVDs, copy it over from the disc itself. If you have a Universal CD or LiveDVD and the stage you want to use is on the disc, downloading it from the Internet is just a waste of bandwidth as the stage files are the same. In most cases, the command uname -m can be used to help you decide which stage file to download."
you need any hostsystem to install Gentoo, this may be a liveCD or another Linux-installation on your computer. The steps, roughly spoken, are creating the partitions (at least one), then to copy the stage3-tarball and the portage-tarball onto this partition and extract them. Afterwards you'll have to configure the systemfiles (e.g. /etc/make.conf) like described in the handbook. Do every step like the Handbook describes and then chroot into the new Gentoo-root partition. There you'll update the portage-tree, emerge the kernel-sources and build your kernel. Then install a bootloader, exit the chroot-environment, and reboot your new Gentoo installation. From this moment on you'll no longer need the host-system.
To your question: it doesn't matter from where you obtain your stage3-tarball. you can copy it from you hostsystem (where you've downloaded it) or load it with wget directly onto your new Gentoo-partition. I always use a "fresh" downloaded stage3 and portage tarball. I've never used the Gentoo-live-DVD but once installed from a "install-minimal-iso" CD.
I'd recommend to create a "big enough" root-partition (20GB) and don't forget to create a root-password before! you reboot the new installation. Also it may be a good advice to emerge a good editor (vim) as early as possible since Gentoo uses "nano" which is unuseable.
i have really installed it from minmal-live-cd ....
And it was succesful !! (only i have problem with network...)
BUT: I found that we must copy the root of the DVD image (IN YOUR LIVE-CD) into /mnt/gentoo
then you follow the handbook intructions with some changes...
ten you reboot and emerge packages without using internet (Becuase it's DVD data)
But for clean enviroment i recomended using minimal-livcd...
Thanks For All!
Although this is off topic I would like to reply.
It is great hearing that you have taken the effort and succeeded in getting your Gentoo up and running!
I too am having trouble installing gentoo off the live DVD. I'm no spring chicken, and have installed many linux distros going back to the earliest days of linux (remember Slackware or Infomagic?)
This is my first gentoo install however, plus its on a Mac!
Now I've been reading, and have found one great resource for my exact Mac model (www-odi-ch/prog/macbookpro/). We been talking by email.
So I've gone back and started over with the 2008 "reference platform" CDs. However, I really like what I see on the new liveDVD disk, specifically kismet is on there and I haven't been able to get it compiled under Ubuntu.
Where I'm at now is I have loaded the 2008 "reference platform" and the associated stage 3 tarball. I have compiled the custom kernel, no problems, and can even boot the relatively minimal gentoo environment.
All sounds good, except I can't get (wireless) networking going. The devices (eth0 & wlan0) are defined, and I can setup manual configuration with ifconfig. I'm doing all this in a public hotspot, so I can't use eth0 here.
My /etc/resolve points to their router. The ath9k driver is compiled into the kernel. My ifconfig output for wlan0 looks good, with netmask, broadcast, gateway all correct. But no connection. Cat /proc/net/wireless reveals a line for wlan0 but everything is zeros.
What am I missing here guys? The minimal setup seems to lack a dhcpd, which is why I used ifconfig. I also tried the net-setup script with same results.
Previously I tried to mount the image.splashfs off the liveDVD, using that as my stage3. Seems like that should work. The liveDVD has alot of stuff on it, and I thought it was a good base system. No matter what I tried though my keyboard was dead booting the liveDVD. I have the latest firmware on the Mac, and just confirmed it by trying to install the specific version listed in the www-odi-ch/prog/macbookpro/ page.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Last edited by tonymar; 11-18-2010 at 02:32 PM.
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